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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

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WAC hit by conference realignment ... again

Matt Brown reports that Southern Utah, Cal Baptist, and Utah Valley are eying exits from the much maligned league
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The WAC looks like it will finally die. All schools except Tarlenton State, Albiene Christian, and UT Arlington appears to haven't found homes just yet.
 
Creebuzz said:
tucson.com

Mailbag: The Big 12’s best bets for a super league (or the SEC or Big Ten), reverse-merger talk, Gould’s role and more

Jon Wilner's mailbag: The Big 12’s best bets for a super league (or the SEC or Big Ten), reverse-merger talk, Gould’s role and more
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Wilner is a tool and hates Colorado big time
He puts Kansas, BYU and TTU in the B1G
Only Kansas makes sense because of AAU and research, brand and basketball, as well as a new football stadium
BYU and TTU are not AAU and are not committed to Research like CU, and TTU is not even in a decent market.
Step up and play ball Buff Admin
 
4BienemyTDs said:
Wilner is a tool and hates Colorado big time
He puts Kansas, BYU and TTU in the B1G
Only Kansas makes sense because of AAU and research, brand and basketball, as well as a new football stadium
BYU and TTU are not AAU and are not committed to Research like CU, and TTU is not even in a decent market.
Step up and play ball Buff Admin
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To be fair, he really didn’t put any team in the BIG. And Colorado embarrassed itself in his league for a decade plus. I think many people have a wait and see approach to Colorado’s long term commitment to sports.

But, otherwise, yeah, Wilner is a tool and he does hate the Buffs.
 
4BienemyTDs said:
Wilner is a tool and hates Colorado big time
He puts Kansas, BYU and TTU in the B1G
Only Kansas makes sense because of AAU and research, brand and basketball, as well as a new football stadium
BYU and TTU are not AAU and are not committed to Research like CU, and TTU is not even in a decent market.
Step up and play ball Buff Admin
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He put ASU, BYU and TTU as the top expansion candidates with Utah being the only other potential choice. His reasons were stupid, though.
 
InTheBuff said:
TTU ? so dumb

ASU, BYU or Utah have merit but so would CU if comparing to those three.
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His reasons were about their resources, which doesn't make much sense considering all it takes is a full commitment to the revenue sharing and meeting the "salary cap" going forward. BYU has as much or more resources than anyone in the country if they choose to go all in and they have a built in following, so I can see that, but they even with all that, they don't generate any excitement or ratings/views, which we know is priority #1. ASU and TTU feel like non starters, though, unless B1G wants a Texas program or either conference wants to expand into another time zone.

I see why Utah would be considered, but if Utah can't maintain the Wittingham success I don't see anything appealing about them.

I agree that conferences are in wait and see mode with CU, but all that would need to happen is putting a clause in CU's contract that they agree to share the maximum revenue allowed with their players.
 
Bison said:
You wanted an update on NIU, a school that recently beat Nebraska in football, and their other sports?

niuhuskies.com

NIU Sports Moving to Horizon League in 2026-27 - NIU Athletics

DeKALB, Ill. – Northern Illinois University will join the Horizon League as a full member with 14 sports set to begin competition in the League for the 2026-27 seasons,
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NIU to the Horizon League - What They're Saying - NIU Athletics

Rashon Burno, Men's Basketball "We look forward to competing in the Horizon League. It is a conference that has been on the rise recently, as Oakland showed last
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1) This is for non-football sports. Football is still joining the MWC in 2026.
2) "Recently" is doing A LOT of work in that sentence- NIU beat nebraska in 2017, since when nebraska has hired 3 different coaches, lost 50+ games, and we all navigated a pandemic. Mike Riley was the coach at the time. Hell, nebraska lost to MIKE ****ING MACINTYRE as CU head coach since NIU beat nebraska
3) More relevantly, CU plays NIU in football in 2027, but this news is irrelevant to that because see point 1).
 
InTheBuff said:
I'd put CU's chances below 1% in joining the B10.
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Why?
Colorado is the hottest brand and has always had all the behind the scenes benefits
AAU, Large Research Funding, Large Market, Great Viewership numbers, National Brand that is recovering its mojo
Prime is critical, but if all the infrastructure returns and Prime stays long enough to build it back up, we can remain the most viable program
I could see Miami, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Kansas, Colorado, and Arizona State being the best programs for the B1G beyond Notre Dame and possibly Stanford.
 
CU's average viewers in 2024 was 3.55m which was good for 9th in the country and behind only Ohio State and Michigan in the B1G and a full 1.1m/game ahead of Nebraska, Oregon and Penn State who are B1G3/4/5 on the list. CU also did that without any marquee brand opponents outside of Nebraska.

Even if the Prime effect faded a bit and those ratings were cut in half down to 1.77 - 1.8m/game, that would still put CU around 22nd-23rd in the country and 7th in the B1G, and that's with the schedule CU currently has, not a schedule that would have them playing some of the other marquee programs in the B1G.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
CU's average viewers in 2024 was 3.55m which was good for 9th in the country and behind only Ohio State and Michigan in the B1G and a full 1.1m/game ahead of Nebraska, Oregon and Penn State who are B1G3/4/5 on the list. CU also did that without any marquee brand opponents outside of Nebraska.

Even if the Prime effect faded a bit and those ratings were cut in half down to 1.77 - 1.8m/game, that would still put CU around 22nd-23rd in the country and 7th in the B1G, and that's with the schedule CU currently has, not a schedule that would have them playing some of the other marquee programs in the B1G.
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We do not need Prime forever, but if CU could get into the B1G right now and Prime stayed for 3 more years, we would be set for good.
Is RG ready and able to make all this happen, or is the Prez and Chancellor ready to step up.
The B1G is actually more about Academics, which gets the entire school on board, even the Endowment because of the research step up that we want to remain a part of!!!
 
4BienemyTDs said:
Why?
Colorado is the hottest brand and has always had all the behind the scenes benefits
AAU, Large Research Funding, Large Market, Great Viewership numbers, National Brand that is recovering its mojo
Prime is critical, but if all the infrastructure returns and Prime stays long enough to build it back up, we can remain the most viable program
I could see Miami, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Kansas, Colorado, and Arizona State being the best programs for the B1G beyond Notre Dame and possibly Stanford.
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I don't disagree with the pluses you bring up.
Problem being is even now there's zero chatter about Colorado.
I keep hearing Stanford, Kansas and ASU if the B10 looks west after gobbling up what they want from the ACC.
 
Be on the lookout for private capital happening soon for the Big12. What does that do for all of their members?
I'm pretty sure BY knew this ACC stuff was going to happen and that his conference needs to step it up.
 
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I don't see CU going anywhere after 2031. Maybe after the next media rights cycle but it's going to be very difficult to convince people that CU will take football seriously after Coach Prime eventually leaves the program.

As for the other 4C schools:

UA: They are definitely not going anywhere and they are a basketball school which is what the B12 will be going forward.
ASU: They are AAU now and probably first in the line for the B10 when it comes to the 4C schools.
Utah: It's debatable if they are ahead of the Buffs when it comes to the B10 but that will be as long as the NFL doesn't have a team in SLC.
BYU:

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InTheBuff said:
Be on the lookout for private capital happening soon for the Big12. What does that do for all of their members?
I'm pretty sure BY knew this ACC stuff was going to happen and that his conference needs to do step it up.
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I actually have a different take on this comment. Colorado, BYU, Kansas, and ASU are not likely totally on board with PE, especially with today's news about the ACC. Those 4 schools would want out and not create another tie to the Big12 because things are happening fast and the Big12 is a cute league, but not the NFL. This is like the Broncos in 1960. Yormark did his thing, ACC is not doing its thing, and it likely just speeds up the final Super League that is B1G and SEC just like NFL and AFL merger
 
Bison said:
I don't see CU going anywhere after 2031. Maybe after the next media rights cycle but it's going to be very difficult to convince people that CU will take football seriously after Coach Prime eventually leaves the program.

As for the other 4C schools:

UA: They are definitely not going anywhere and they are a basketball school which is what the B12 will be going forward.
ASU: They are AAU now and probably first in the line for the B10 when it comes to the 4C schools.
Utah: It's debatable if they are ahead of the Buffs when it comes to the B10 but that will be as long as the NFL doesn't have a team in SLC.
BYU:

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Take Football Seriously? Really
Even in bad years, there is a strong support, and the student body is more onboard than ever
Are you really that cold on CU's overall future?
 
InTheBuff said:
TCU is also a school I hear about. Nowhere do I hear Colorado :(
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Colorado has been mentioned by a lot of the Media savvy commentators, and there are enough Top 25 factors for CU to be a strong and likely candidate in any final expansion. Do you not think that Colorado would be a top 48 program in any model? History, DMA, Academics, Airport, Viewership, Social Media Presence, etc. We are going to be included, and TCU or TTU might look cool, but they are not.
 
A source is telling Andy Staples that a school could pay $200M to leave the ACC one the settlement goes through Tuesday.

That figure falls 'well below ' $100M should a school wish to exit the league after the 2029-2030 school year.
 
The answers on expansion candidates are determined by who is making the decisions.

For example, the following things mean a ton to B1G Presidents while FoxSports DGAF about any of them:

1. R1 designation for highest level of research intensity in the Carnegie ratings.

2. STEM focus of research which has qualified the university for AAU membership.

3. ARWU/Shanghai ranking among the top 100 in the world.

4. Location in a state which produces a high number of qualified college applicants, preferably with a history of sending a lot of students to current B1G member institutions, and with a sizable B1G alumni base in the state.

5. If a state university, preference for it being a land grant university along with cultural factors which makes it fit as "one of us".

For the media partners, the only consideration is the number of eyeballs the school attracts when it plays a football game. This includes considerations like the size of its local and national market even when they're having an irrelevant season but is mostly about the overall brand strength (for instance, Notre Dame can often justify a national network broadcast even if unranked and playing a nobody).

Maybe where the two interests align is on "tradition & prestige". That's somewhat subjective, but whether a university and its football program are considered "big time" has a lot to do with how strong it is as a brand all conference stakeholders will want to align with.
 
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