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CU officially hires Mel Tucker as new Head Football Coach

RiverBuff said:
I said it earlier, but so excited about ADRG bringing SEC quality football to the Pac-12. Not that I like that 'culture', but the football and the quantity of players from east of here is above where the Pac-12 is.

Colorado is the furthest east of the Pac-12 schools. So, we're closer to where Tucker has recruited from. Great opportunity to explore and recruit from more and fertile territory, than just Texas, etc. We've gotten great recruits from Florida. Get players that want to come west.
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Great recruits from Florida? Like who?
 
4BienemyTDs said:
I get what Duff is saying, in terms of how it never felt like MM took full ownership of recruiting, and thus we got decent players, maybe even good ones in 2017, but no where near the players that Tucker has got, and should get moving forward. I just love that we are going to go in a completely 180 degree direction and I am pretty sure that Tuckers planning for recruiting will come from within the walls of the Alabama's and the Georgia's of the world. I am pretty sure they have good plans we can follow (steal)

I actually think that having Tucker be mostly plugged into the midwest and southeast is just fine in relationship to Line recruiting. Everyone agrees that the P12 is not getting enough beef and power on the OL and DL, so if Coach Tucker can recruit us some guys from Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, and other parts, maybe we can make some serious improvements at those spots. Colorado is not that different a landscape from Georgia or North Carolina, so if they come, they will like it. Atlanta to Denver is a direct flight.

We are gonna Tuck the PAC12 Up!
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If his strategy is to recruit lines all from the southeast, he will not succeed.

Poly athletes and Texas. The blueprint is there from successful Pac-12 teams and CU's past.
 
Duff Man said:
If his strategy is to recruit lines all from the southeast, he will not succeed.

Poly athletes and Texas. The blueprint is there from successful Pac-12 teams and CU's past.[/QUOTE}

Not all from the Southeast, but if we can get a few big guys from other areas that we have not had success, then good for us. Texas is the pipeline, best Colorado kids that can play, and California. If we can create a Poly connection that is also great.
Gotta imagine that Tucker will never lose the solid connections to some solid programs in the Southeast.
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Duff Man said:
If his strategy is to recruit lines all from the southeast, he will not succeed.

Poly athletes and Texas. The blueprint is there from successful Pac-12 teams and CU's past.
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Not ALL from the Southeast, but if we can get some big boys, good for us! Coach Tucker has solid connections that he will be able to go to for guys.
Texas is the pipeline, California of course, best kids in Colorado (That I think we can do an even better job of keeping), and if a Poly connection can be found, we are in a much better situation.
 
Duff Man said:
If his strategy is to recruit lines all from the southeast, he will not succeed.

Poly athletes and Texas. The blueprint is there from successful Pac-12 teams and CU's past.
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In a perfect world he keeps his ties to Georgia and can pull a recruit or 2 every cycle that is worth the time and effort it takes. As far as poly kids, I hope this staff take it seriously and makes it a point to recruit them and make them feel welcome here. Washington is leading the field there and it’s paying dividends on their lines. They have a recruit next year that’s like 6’4” 300 or something. That’s a game changer if CU can get any kids like that who are ready to play right away.
 
Funny thing is that Colorado had/has two of the most important Left Tackles in the entire NFL recently in David Bakhtiari (protecting Aaron Rodgers) and Nate Solder (previously protecting Tom Brady and now protecting Eli Manning) We need to have people that can recruit for real and use things like that.
 
His first 2 or 3 classes, I expect to see some guys signed from the southeast.

But that's relationships, not a long-term viable plan for this program. We're not going to build CU on the back of being a Pac-12 team that pulls a ton of talent from the southeast. It's not realistic and I don't expect that to be the plan because I don't think that Mel, Rick and Lance are dumbasses.
 
Getting cold feet. No experience as a head coach, no ties to CU, no recruiting presence in our 3 largest recruiting areas, no OC yet, No knowledge of CU history. This is a higher level Dan the man Hawkins move. I really hope i am completely wrong.
 
Glenbuff95 said:
Getting cold feet. No experience as a head coach, no ties to CU, no recruiting presence in our 3 largest recruiting areas, no OC yet, No knowledge of CU history. This is a higher level Dan the man Hawkins move. I really hope i am completely wrong.
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Your first two criteria mean nothing. Hell, the second one is a damn bonus. Like a gigantic bonus.

Maybe wait to see who he hires? No OC yet... before he has been formally hired?:ROFLMAO:
 
This whole "no experience recruiting in our footprint" is SO OVERBLOWN.

Nick Saban was a midwest guy before LSU (and not a very good recruiter).
Mike Leach had never coached in the PAC12.

You need a couple guys on staff who have the rolodex. They don't necessarily need to be assistant coaches, but in the recruiting room.

With those contacts, staff gets on kids and H.S. coaches. Those coaches want the best for their kids (i.e. the league), they will listen to a guy with UGA/Bama cred. It is not that big of an obstacle. Get the best recruiters and position coaches that you can, **** the regional history.
 
Glenbuff95 said:
Getting cold feet. No experience as a head coach, no ties to CU, no recruiting presence in our 3 largest recruiting areas, no OC yet, No knowledge of CU history. This is a higher level Dan the man Hawkins move. I really hope i am completely wrong.
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Literally half of the successful HC's met that criteria at a key stop in their career (Urban Meyer at Utah, Nick Saban at LSU, etc)
 
Glenbuff95 said:
Getting cold feet. No experience as a head coach, no ties to CU, no recruiting presence in our 3 largest recruiting areas, no OC yet, No knowledge of CU history. This is a higher level Dan the man Hawkins move. I really hope i am completely wrong.
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Don’t worry you are. The key to Colorado’s success in the PAC-12 is to expand our footprint to Texas and the Midwest.

1. We are always going to be getting SC’s leftovers
2. There are not enough great players in SOCAL, Colorado and Nevada to fill all of the PAC-12 coffers.

If RG is serious about championships then we need to get into Texas, Big 10 and SEC country again just like Macartney did.

HCMT is just the man for the job.
 
buffaholic said:
This whole "no experience recruiting in our footprint" is SO OVERBLOWN.

Nick Saban was a midwest guy before LSU (and not a very good recruiter).
Mike Leach had never coached in the PAC12.

You need a couple guys on staff who have the rolodex. They don't necessarily need to be assistant coaches, but in the recruiting room.

With those contacts, staff gets on kids and H.S. coaches. Those coaches want the best for their kids (i.e. the league), they will listen to a guy with UGA/Bama cred. It is not that big of an obstacle. Get the best recruiters and position coaches that you can, **** the regional history.
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Agree, if you are a good recruiter, you can do it anywhere. McCartney would have pulled in star kids no matter where he was.
 
here's the thing with recruiting... all elite schools recruit nationally to some extent. yes, we're going to need our texas and california recruiters and we need to get our poly pipeline going again-- this is the base to be successful in our conference. but, Coach Tucker has connections in other areas too. we don't have to pull a bunch of guys out of georgia, louisiana, and florida every year. if we pull a few (which i think we can) and we do what we need to in our footprint, then we're going to be awesome again.

i liked the ohio state guy re: recruiting for similar reasons-- we're not going to own ohio, michigan, and penn., but if we can pull a few guys every year from there because of our coach from there, then that would be a good thing.

Coach Tucker may succeed and he may fail, but i believe that he checks the boxes we were looking for in a new coach. the staff, as always, will be a huge factor. but, as of right now, i don't see a reason for pessimism. let's get after it!
 
buffaholic said:
This whole "no experience recruiting in our footprint" is SO OVERBLOWN.

Nick Saban was a midwest guy before LSU (and not a very good recruiter).
Mike Leach had never coached in the PAC12.

You need a couple guys on staff who have the rolodex. They don't necessarily need to be assistant coaches, but in the recruiting room.

With those contacts, staff gets on kids and H.S. coaches. Those coaches want the best for their kids (i.e. the league), they will listen to a guy with UGA/Bama cred. It is not that big of an obstacle. Get the best recruiters and position coaches that you can, **** the regional history.
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Well, that is silly too. Saban did not say "**** the regional history" when he hired that staff at LSU. And he certainly did not do that when he got hired at Alabama.
 
SBP said:
Don’t worry you are. The key to Colorado’s success in the PAC-12 is to expand our footprint to Texas and the Midwest.

1. We are always going to be getting SC’s leftovers
2. There are not enough great players in SOCAL, Colorado and Nevada to fill all of the PAC-12 coffers.

If RG is serious about championships then we need to get into Texas, Big 10 and SEC country again just like Macartney did.

HCMT is just the man for the job.
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Uh, McCartney recruited the hell out of So Cal.
 
4BienemyTDs said:
Funny thing is that Colorado had/has two of the most important Left Tackles in the entire NFL recently in David Bakhtiari (protecting Aaron Rodgers) and Nate Solder (previously protecting Tom Brady and now protecting Eli Manning) We need to have people that can recruit for real and use things like that.
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Bakhtiari was a small 18 year old kid, he definitely grew into a grown a$$ man through college
 
Duff Man said:
Well, that is silly too. Saban did not say "**** the regional history" when he hired that staff at LSU. And he certainly did not do that when he got hired at Alabama.
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His top guy is Tosh who never recruited there before Alabama. He seemed to adjust really quick. He could recruit in Mongolia if someone game him the contacts to focus on.
 
Duff Man said:
Uh, McCartney recruited the hell out of So Cal.
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Sal and Hagan are the first 2 guys who spring to mind. Pulled from there, Houston, Louisiana, etc. I don't recall a lot of midwest recruiting, actually. Some individual targets like Westbrook because we could go anywhere and compete with anyone by 1990, but the program wasn't rebuilt on MI talent.
 
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