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Darrin Chiaverini relieved of his duties as Offensive Coordinator
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SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Depth and recruiting are still very much a problem, make no mistake.
Why not both? And who was our recruiting coordinator?
For the folks who are team Chev... Can you provide any legitimate reasons why Chev should remain on staff as OC? Attending CU is not a legitimate reason why he should be the OC (just wanted to get that out of the way). It's really a rhetorical question, since his best attribute is his recruiting and he refuses to recruit and he cannot call plays effectively, but go ahead...
I've been on side "our players are more talented than people give them credit" the past two years, but I've been consistent, we do not have a talented o line this year. Is there something secret you big boys know about coach Rod the rest of us don't? Because from my perspective, our o line just held last year's 10th ranked d to the same stat line for pbu, tfl, sacks, qb hurries, and turnovers as their o line held our d. Massive overachievement for our hogs. I don't really get a recruiting argument, not like everyone else is lining up 4 stars, or Rod is any worse than Kap. Sure the o line played ****ty against San D St and NCO, but after yesterday's play calling I'm thinking of blaming that **** on chev too. I'm curious what don't you like about Rod?
The most important part of his recruiting. Go work high school or the NFL if you want to focus on what you have and what gets delivered.
Max McCaffrey
Cale Gundy. Currently the Co-OC at Oklahoma and is also the recruiting coordinator.
Give him the OC and RC titles, pay him and both the offense and recruiting improve immediately.
Give him the OC and RC titles, pay him and both the offense and recruiting improve immediately.
Was that the BJax year?
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
What do we want to be though? Would Littrell bring a physical enough offense? IIRC his background is more Oklahoma air raid.
Troy Taylor as an OC would be fine-but you're talking about replacing Dorrell with a guy who has coached 15 games at the FCS level?
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ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Isn't happening. He's an Oklahoma lifer.
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
Yes, Hawk and Helfrich year 1
Look at Littrell when he got UNC to the ACC title game. Over 220 ypg on the ground with over 260 ypg passing. That's what I would want from him - what he does at a P5 program that has the personnel to play real football.What do we want to be though? Would Littrell bring a physical enough offense? IIRC his background is more Oklahoma air raid.
Troy Taylor as an OC would be fine-but you're talking about replacing Dorrell with a guy who has coached 15 games at the FCS level?
Why do we penalize guys for taking a HC job? Taylor was OC at Utah and very successful. No one seems to mind hiring a successful P5 coordinator. Him leaving there to successfully run his own show at the FCS level does not downgrade his resume.
Do you know how to spell exhaustion?
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Monson: Troy Taylor is gone, and Kyle Whittingham, the Dark Overlord of Utah’s offense, reigns on
Troy Taylor is gone, and it’s not a matter of him wanting to be a head coach at a place like Sacramento State.
What we know about the departure of Utah OC Troy Taylor - ESPN700
Utah’s eighth offensive coordinator in the last 11 years, Troy Taylor, joins a growing list of coaches who’ve held the […]
espn700sports.com
I'm fine with Littrell as an OC candidate after this year if he becomes available.
I have several issues with Taylor-One, if he was so successful at Utah-why did KW feel like he needed to get their OL coach more involved in the gameplanning? The fact that it worked for the 2018 Utah team doesn't help your argument. Two, Whittingham forced him out in Salt Lake because he wanted to run more spread type stuff. That's interesting to me for a couple reasons-One, a lot of you wanted to be more physical after FHCMM was canned. Tucker brought that. After he left for Michigan State, names like Graham Harrell never really got traction on here because we all want to be more physical. Now you want to bring a guy whose history shows he's likely going to want to go away from that? We have the right identity-we need a guy who is going to be more balanced and can effectively develop a passing game that can prevent teams from stacking the box like A&M did. That's not going to be Taylor IMO.
Two, not wanting to hire a guy because he's got a little over a year of head coaching experience isn't punishing him, Nik. Taylor needs to show he can manage important aspects of a program-you know....like recruiting. You guys bitch and moan constantly about how important recruiting is and bad this staff is at it and you're trying to argue we should put a guy with one year of FCS HC experience in charge of this program?
Um, its also really on a lack of seasoned experienced talent on offense more than its on play calling. The lack of the bolded likely limits the size of the playbook unless you want 6 or 7 ints in the books and a QB with no self confidence. I think Chev was trying to build Lewis up and keep him away from where he knew he would get into trouble in terms of the play calling against a top 5 ranked opponent.
I didnt pick up on the blanketed WRs as others did. I think Duff is right that the offensive coaches have a lot they need to work on this week and month.
Whats a really scarry thought to me is that we might be in a really bad place at the QB position overall. Some of Lewis’s reads seemed really poor (experience) and some of his passes seemed like threaded needles that show potential. He seemed a little lost in the 2nd half.
What I meant by my post is that I'd take Taylor as OC right now and that when KD's time is done he'd be a HC candidate. I don't expect our HC job to open up for several years. KD is here until retirement - either his own or RG retiring and KD moving into the AD role.Monson: Troy Taylor is gone, and Kyle Whittingham, the Dark Overlord of Utah’s offense, reigns on
Troy Taylor is gone, and it’s not a matter of him wanting to be a head coach at a place like Sacramento State.www.sltrib.com
What we know about the departure of Utah OC Troy Taylor - ESPN700
Utah’s eighth offensive coordinator in the last 11 years, Troy Taylor, joins a growing list of coaches who’ve held the […]
I'm fine with Littrell as an OC candidate after this year if he becomes available.
I have several issues with Taylor-One, if he was so successful at Utah-why did KW feel like he needed to get their OL coach more involved in the gameplanning? The fact that it worked for the 2018 Utah team doesn't help your argument. Two, Whittingham forced him out in Salt Lake because he wanted to run more spread type stuff. That's interesting to me for a couple reasons-One, a lot of you wanted to be more physical after FHCMM was canned. Tucker brought that. After he left for Michigan State, names like Graham Harrell never really got traction on here because we all want to be more physical. Now you want to bring a guy whose history shows he's likely going to want to go away from that? We have the right identity-we need a guy who is going to be more balanced and can effectively develop a passing game that can prevent teams from stacking the box like A&M did. That's not going to be Taylor IMO.
Two, not wanting to hire a guy because he's got a little over a year of head coaching experience isn't punishing him, Nik. Taylor needs to show he can manage important aspects of a program-you know....like recruiting. You guys bitch and moan constantly about how important recruiting is and bad this staff is at it and you're trying to argue we should put a guy with one year of FCS HC experience in charge of this program?
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Don't really like Taylor as an OC to be honest. We have the right identity offensively-we need more balance. I'd prefer to promote Langsdorf and go get a WR coach who can recruit his ass off.
Talent and depth issues at OT are glaring weaknesses.
I disagree, they moved away from what worked in the first half and that's on coaching.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
My guess is HCKD will begin to call plays at some point soon and the discussion with Chiaverini will go something like this...”I’m going to start inserting myself into calling formations and plays. You can choose to accept it and hopefully learn from it or you can go somewhere else. With your body of work thus far, you’d be smart to take the first option”. I have no idea if this will happen and if it does, whether offensive efficiency will improve but it can’t get worse.
What makes you think KD will do that? Guy hasn't shown that level of aggressiveness with his staff
$600k for a coordinator we don't trust to call plays. Ugh.
i agree with your point here for sure.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
I’m not saying he will, only guessing. The press is calling out offensive impotence. It will be a topic in press conferences. It’s become the elephant in the room. The players know it, a la B Rice tweet. A divided locker room is the last thing this staff can afford. HCKD dismisses it at his own peril.
