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DC Search Including & beyond the 1st 4 Candidates
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SD Buff
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Utah is a cluster ****, regardless of their OC and DC search.
Once our search went past the first couple weeks, the timetable made no difference to me. Obviously would be nice to have someone in place for the start of spring ball, but we know MacIntyre has very specific ideas what he wants to do on defense, so........whatever.
Once our search went past the first couple weeks, the timetable made no difference to me. Obviously would be nice to have someone in place for the start of spring ball, but we know MacIntyre has very specific ideas what he wants to do on defense, so........whatever.
Jealous. They won a conference game this year.
boydbuff
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I don´t think anyone has a ****ing clue what is going on with this search, as clearly evidenced in the 84 pages on this thread. Insiders who usually get info are not sharing and are suggesting that Dal Ward has been shut down and even people who work for the AD don´t know.
I personally don´t hold much hope that it is a coach in the NFL on one of the Super Bowl teams. In fact, as SD suggests above, I don´t really care, and in fact, would be considered if it was someone who has been a long time in the NFL as we all know recruiting and coaching 17-22 year old kids is a whole other ball game.
I either hope that it is someone we can all say makes a ton of sense as a DC for a Pac team, or is a young up and comer like a Lindgren where HCMM is going to take the lead running the D. The worst scenarios for me are: A.) another Baer type DC who is on their way down and not showing quality results on the field where he is now or B.) a position coach from Podunk U who has been there long enough that if he was good enough would have gotten more responsibility there or been recruited elsewhere.
I personally don´t hold much hope that it is a coach in the NFL on one of the Super Bowl teams. In fact, as SD suggests above, I don´t really care, and in fact, would be considered if it was someone who has been a long time in the NFL as we all know recruiting and coaching 17-22 year old kids is a whole other ball game.
I either hope that it is someone we can all say makes a ton of sense as a DC for a Pac team, or is a young up and comer like a Lindgren where HCMM is going to take the lead running the D. The worst scenarios for me are: A.) another Baer type DC who is on their way down and not showing quality results on the field where he is now or B.) a position coach from Podunk U who has been there long enough that if he was good enough would have gotten more responsibility there or been recruited elsewhere.
Sorry SD, but that's moving the goal posts too far. That would be a joke.
The school that lost its DC and DL coach to another conference school? The school that had very a public spat between the HC and AD this offseason? I mean, I guess they we are not totally losing this offseason? Cool. I guess.
SD Buff
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I was kinda rambling. What would be a joke? Having MacIntyre coordinate the defense next year? Or not caring when the hire is made?
First, yes. Second, at some point, yes :lol:
Better facilities(right now) including a barber shop, been to a BCS bowl more recently, both football and basketball ranked this year, better recruiting class in football, actually have a 2015 bball class.
The fact that they don't have a DC, is not quite such a big deal and isn't comparable to the fugged up situation at CU.
SD Buff
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Fair enough. I have been all over the place the last couple weeks. At the point of wanting a hire just so I don't have to read this thread any longer. ha.
This. Do they use the jump to conclusions mat?
When it comes to hiring, firing, PR, branding, budgeting... Call in the consultants!! CU's go to for decision making.:lol:
And I bet you would continue to try and troll as a mod by not taking a stance
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What stance am I not taking? I think the search has taken too long and I highly doubt the hire is going to "wow" anyone.
You move the goalposts more than anyone on this site. I mean, do you seriously think the search has gone smoothly? Because you seem to be arguing with anyone who suggests anything of the sort.
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Do I think it has gone smoothly? No. Do I think it's some big embarrassing cluster****? No. I've been pretty consistent with saying none of us know **** about what's going on. I don't really recall you taking a stance on who you think we should hire.
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You know that is what is going to happen either way.
I would have been fine with anyone on that initial hot board. I know it was not necessarily the guys we were looking at, but it was a good list.
But if I had a top guy, it would have been Todd Orlando.
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I wouldn't have been wowed by Gibbs. Don't remember ever being wowed by any coordinator hire at CU. People wanted Baer gone, he is. I am totally expecting to have never heard of the new DC. CU's biggest "get" as a coordinator over the past decade was probably Mark Helfrich, the QB coach and passing game coordinator at ASU. Had never heard of him until he was hired.
I never expected to be wowed by the hire, but I did and do expect a hire that reasonable people can agree is a clear upgrade. Either a younger assistant coach on a clear upward trajectory or a somewhat seasoned guy with decent experience. Baer was a questionable hire from the start.
I thought Orlando would be the guy we'd go after once Gibbs fell through
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Who would you be happy with?
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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If that's true, then he should just take over as defensive coordinator, himself.
Bring in some young eager recruiters to be the position coaches.
Profit.
this search, from the outside looking in (and not just us crazies critiquing it but the media too), has been a cluster ****.
it has taken too long. it, thus far, hasn't delivered a result. any result, good, bad, or mediocre.
to break out of cycles of badness, you have to be bold, fast, and creative. i get that the AD was taken aback by the depths to which we have sunk. i understand. the answer then is to be even more aggressive-- offer more money, more years, more responsibility. sell the deal if you can't sell the state of the program.
we need a good hire here.
it has taken too long. it, thus far, hasn't delivered a result. any result, good, bad, or mediocre.
to break out of cycles of badness, you have to be bold, fast, and creative. i get that the AD was taken aback by the depths to which we have sunk. i understand. the answer then is to be even more aggressive-- offer more money, more years, more responsibility. sell the deal if you can't sell the state of the program.
we need a good hire here.
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