Sooo 21MM USD per anum?
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Which is why the school should be willing (and enthusiastic) to help the AD with the full financial package for Prime.
I hit the laugh emoji, but this is the part I don't know:
If you could go back in time to where our applications, admissions, and enrollment numbers both as a whole and for minorities were 3 years ago, and ask the chancellor, president, and regents how much money they would be willing to invest each year to achieve the numbers we have today, I feel like they would laugh and say "it's impossible."
But if you insisted that it could happen with the right investment, and forced them to put a value on it, you'd end up with answers spread from $3MM to $20MM and clustered around the low end of that.
This is why I really do think you could/ should take his "football value," and then add a $3-5MM premium on top of that, and it would still be a good investment for the university.
There is simply no other football coach available to hire that brings the off field benefits to the university that he does, so you'll always be paying a premium for those benefits.
And to be clear, I think those benefits to the school and community are worth the premium.
He is the most valuable coach in America at driving value. Pretty simple.
I’m with you. CU has a multi-BILLION annual budget. To the CU system, Prime is easily worth 22 million/yr. I wouldn’t pay him that but you’re damn sure I’m paying him top5 money.
For example, CU just pissed away 23 million for a parking garage at UCCS. A freaking parking lot!!! In the face of multiple yoy’s in declining enrollment down here.
Tell me, is Prime worth more or less to CU than a concrete parking lot at a second-rate satellite municipal college?
The school wil help with the Prime contract, but remember the University is already committed to fully participating in revenue sharing for athletes, which equates to a new tab of ~$20 mm per year. No way can the Athletic Department handle that new expense without help from the University and/or CU Foundation.
Having said that, CU will ALWAYS go cheap with coaches if the can get away with it, so I understand Prime wanting to make sure he has everything he needs before signing the contract. Here is an interesting fact - due to the massive increase in applications associated with Prime being at CU, I was told the University realized incremental $8 million in application fees alone!
If I remember correctly, CU was the first university to pay a head coach over $1 million annually.
Seems everyone is talking about what to pay CP based on what other coaches are making. Curious, what do we think the total impact (value) that CP has provided? I am looking at not just the AD, but also the school, City of Boulder, etc. That is what I would think CPs camp is looking at, not what just some replaceable football coach in the Southeast is making.
We have to do what it takes to make sure he wants to stay.
o_robbie
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I didn't read through all the pages but making CP the top paid head coach with job security should help with recruiting. I would want the buyout to be astronomical like Smart at Georgia for another team like FSU, Auburn, LSU, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, A&M Etc... I would think 100 million plus if they want to take him away from us.
BuffLuke80
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I haven't read through all of this because, quite frankly, I'm tired of hearing about it already. ESPN has been having a fvcking circle jerk about this. Just pay the man and agree to whatever else, be done with it. I heard a real good one this morning. Dallas is gonna trade their 60 million dollar quarterback in Dak and maneuver their way up to draft Shedeur. Yeah, I'm sure teams would line up for that one. Well, maybe the Browns would be stupid enough to do it.
Yes, that’s part of the brand elevation piece of my post. So being the best at one thing, that’s not even directly related to on field success, means you should be the highest paid coach in the country?
Forget “highest paid coach in the country”. Is he worth $13m/year to CU?
Yikes.
Jerry being enamored with the marketing side of it with no real give a **** about the football side of it, which is why the Cowboys will stay being a very mid franchise on the field.
When do the enrollment numbers come out? Will be interesting to see if those dropped from Coach Prime’s first year.
I think that RG is worried there is going to be some viewer and media fatigue around the Buffs, so he is protecting against a retracement around the CU brand value. CU dropped from the 4th most watched college football team in 2023 (4.5M/game) to 9th in 2024 (3.55M/game). Without Shedeur and Hunter, we could potentially be facing another drop. Our matchups in the Big 12 aren’t great since no other team finished inside the top 30 of average viewership. How long can we single handily drive eyeballs in the Big 12?
I think that RG is worried there is going to be some viewer and media fatigue around the Buffs, so he is protecting against a retracement around the CU brand value. CU dropped from the 4th most watched college football team in 2023 (4.5M/game) to 9th in 2024 (3.55M/game). Without Shedeur and Hunter, we could potentially be facing another drop. Our matchups in the Big 12 aren’t great since no other team finished inside the top 30 of average viewership. How long can we single handily drive eyeballs in the Big 12?
Petition to lift the ban on puns, of trees and otherwise, and to strip the tyrannical Darth “BWalk” Snow of all ranks, titles, and accolades
There's nothing to worry about here. As others have noted, Prime gets full autonomy here and gets to be himself. Also, it's all negotiations man. RK reported yesterday the parties aren't far apart and are just making sure the contract contains everything Prime needs it to. All this stuff is to scare the regents and pres into saying yes. Chill out bro! Be positive!
Feel free to pun and see what happens. (if I didn't do this y'all would definitely think I've been kidnapped)
GoBuffs08
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Does the parking garage have the electronic signs telling you how many spaces are available on that level? Do they have the little green/red lights above the spaces letting you know there is an open spot?
Those things are game changers.
Does Prime have the NFL pull to just say, we're picking 12, all you 11 teams ahead of us, hands off Shedeur. You pick him, he will not play for you?
That's what worries me. Trading up with the Titans, Browns, or Giants seems so unworkable that it doesn't concern me.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's why Prime hasn't been introduced today. They're taking the temp of the rest of the league of that possibility.
The nfl isn’t going to set that kind of precedent for players. There would need to be a trade involved just like there was with Eli
I would love to agree with you, but if there are two guys audacious enough to try it, it's Prime and JJ.
Their trade situation is crap. They're over the cap and that's without Dak's contract hitting. Nobody is going to take on Dak's contract full on, which puts JJ in a go cheap mode, plus they're going to have to give up draft picks, taking away a source of cheap players.
So maybe that's why even JJ isn't going to do it. Like I said, if Werder is right (and he's not a guy who would be falling for a "leak to put pressure on CU" gambit) and the pieces were falling into place to get Shedeur, Prime could be introduced soon. If it's not happening, it's because the pieces aren't falling into place.
The NFL’s model doesn’t work if the players, especially incoming Rookies, have the power, and Shedeur simply saying he won’t play for any other franchise than the Cowboys isn’t going to fly without the team at the top of the draft who would otherwise draft him getting major compensation. There are 31 other franchises who aren’t going to just agree to that kind of thing as it will officially set the precedent for that to happen going forward.
I agrere 100% with this statement. His current value to the team and school is truly unmeasurable.
My question is, Prime is still in the infant stage of his coaching career and the hype is 100% real. What happens to his hype (IF) in the next couple years we dont see improvement on the field and 9-3 is all we ever get? No conference championship, or playoffs. How long does the national hype last, another year maybe 2? The hype only continues if he delivers. Does 9-3 support the hype nationally?
I think this makes it difficult to understand his value 4-5 years down the road.
Note that I am on the side of pay the man whatever he wants.