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DeSoto Boys - coming out party?

4BienemyTDs said:
There was a great example of what I was talking about and Lindgren called a good game. It is not over his head, but I am just so done with his play calling as a whole. If and when he can continue to call a good game, then I might re-evaluate my opinion of him. He has a long way to go, but the Cal game and the play that was just shown is something we should see more of.
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Not much has changed from last year to this year (sans a few wrinkles) with the offense and play calling. The biggest difference I see, is the QB. Montez is not a very good QB at identifying defenses and utilizing the RPO just yet. Another one was CU hit on two long passes in the Cal game and absolutely opened everything up. Amazing what that will do.

Lindgren does bare some of the blame with the issues on offense thus far, as I think he could help Montez a little more at the beginning of games. Get him some plays to gain confidence.
 
4BienemyTDs said:
There was a great example of what I was talking about and Lindgren called a good game. It is not over his head, but I am just so done with his play calling as a whole. If and when he can continue to call a good game, then I might re-evaluate my opinion of him. He has a long way to go, but the Cal game and the play that was just shown is something we should see more of.
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Anyone who has followed my post knows I am not a Lindgren fan but no he is not in over his head. I don't generally see him as a positive and since he doesn't make a big impact recruiting I have favored replacing him but we could do a lot worse.

The prior few weeks I felt we were very predictable and stale. Hit a decent gain on a pass and the next two plays were a run between the tackle, count on it. The passes we called were very predictable and almost all outside the hashes making coverage easier.

This week he made significant changes and no I don't credit it to Chev. He used play action effectively on first and second down, he mixed up the running calls attacking the whole defense, he called more shots to JMac (and even went to Bounds) forcing more respect for the middle of the field.

I'm not ready to call for either KD or Shenault to be starting but there are things they could do with them within the existing offense that would provide opportunities to use their explosiveness. I'd like to see KD take some handoffs from the slot or the wing. Shenault can stretch a defense more than we have been.

I also though agree that we can't have a hodge-podge of plays and formations. Focus on what we do well and create some variety off that.
 
buffaholic said:
Chev sucks. Right?
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Actually I give Chev all the credit in the world for having foresight in the recruiting of both. It's my belief that both players insisted on not red shirting as part of their commitment to play at CU, helps explain why Ento & Lee are red shirting this season. I know from living here in TX. people follow their local high school players for years after they graduate HS, DD Westbrook is a God here in Cameron.
 
TSchekler said:
Why? He was the playcaller and QB coach. You think he was more responsible than the HC and WR coach for personnel? Lol
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Yep, MM doesn't micro manage and the WR coach doesn't call the plays and coaches according to the plays the OC game plans. Lindgren had tunnel vision.
 
Always BUFF said:
Yep, MM doesn't micro manage and the WR coach doesn't call the plays and coaches according to the plays the OC game plans. Lindgren had tunnel vision.
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If you think Lindgren had more say in the WR depth chart than MM and Chev, you simply have no idea what you’re talking about.
 
TSchekler said:
If you think Lindgren had more say in the WR depth chart than MM and Chev, you simply have no idea what you’re talking about.
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Maybe more than MM. I've noticed that MM rarely even enters the offensive huddle. He's much more involved with the defense. But the WR rotations last season are almost completely on Chev. He mismanaged it and it's very clear that he has learned from it with the way he is handling that group this season.
 
Buffnik said:
Maybe more than MM. I've noticed that MM rarely even enters the offensive huddle. He's much more involved with the defense. But the WR rotations last season are almost completely on Chev. He mismanaged it and it's very clear that he has learned from it with the way he is handling that group this season.
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Nah. Buck stops with MM on EVERY personnel decision on the depth chart. Obviously in conjunction w the position coaches, but there’s no chance MM just said, “whatever you think, guys!”
 
TSchekler said:
Nah. Buck stops with MM on EVERY personnel decision on the depth chart. Obviously in conjunction w the position coaches, but there’s no chance MM just said, “whatever you think, guys!”
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Depends on whether we're talking about in-game rotations or not. MM is almost certainly going to tell the offensive coaches, "Player X is not performing and we need to give someone else a shot. Player Y is killing it in practice lately and needs to get the ball on Saturday." And when then HC says something like that the assistants are going to listen. Clearly he didn't do that enough last season. But he's not micromanaging substitution patterns once the game starts. It's mostly on Chev for certain guys not playing enough at WR last year. It's also on Lindgren for not telling Chev that he wanted to dial up a play for a certain player when they talked between series and for not incorporating guys more into game plans. Good example was the week Winfree started in the slot and had like 9 catches but then didn't really get in the next week. How does that happen?
 
Buffnik said:
Depends on whether we're talking about in-game rotations or not. MM is almost certainly going to tell the offensive coaches, "Player X is not performing and we need to give someone else a shot. Player Y is killing it in practice lately and needs to get the ball on Saturday." And when then HC says something like that the assistants are going to listen. Clearly he didn't do that enough last season. But he's not micromanaging substitution patterns once the game starts. It's mostly on Chev for certain guys not playing enough at WR last year. It's also on Lindgren for not telling Chev that he wanted to dial up a play for a certain player when they talked between series and for not incorporating guys more into game plans. Good example was the week Winfree started in the slot and had like 9 catches but then didn't really get in the next week. How does that happen?
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Fair. It just seems irresponsible to really place blame at anyone’s feet but Chev’s for the lack of PT for Viska and KD last season, in particularly Lindgren, who is a very convenient punching bag.
 
Always BUFF said:
Call it even then...I believe you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Buffnik said:
Depends on whether we're talking about in-game rotations or not. MM is almost certainly going to tell the offensive coaches, "Player X is not performing and we need to give someone else a shot. Player Y is killing it in practice lately and needs to get the ball on Saturday." And when then HC says something like that the assistants are going to listen. Clearly he didn't do that enough last season. But he's not micromanaging substitution patterns once the game starts. It's mostly on Chev for certain guys not playing enough at WR last year. It's also on Lindgren for not telling Chev that he wanted to dial up a play for a certain player when they talked between series and for not incorporating guys more into game plans. Good example was the week Winfree started in the slot and had like 9 catches but then didn't really get in the next week. How does that happen?
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I agree with you on points, my take is Lindgren game planned and had direct in put as to which personnel were on the field for his called plays. Didn't have much to do with Chev as he coached technique and so on. For all I know it might've been Chev who talked Lindgren in to having LS on the field for those 7 catches and Winfree being on the field against SC. At what point does the light bulb go on reflecting who is not performing and it's time for a change that will give us a better chance to win? I can only imagine the earful Lindgren got from MM after a few games last year.
 
KD was a beast today. And for him to say after the game that he needed to step up and play better? Wow.
 
Go Buffs said:
KD was a beast today. And for him to say after the game that he needed to step up and play better? Wow.
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He missed a couple plays, but he made the plays that put CU into position to where the Buffs should have coasted to a win. I've got no ill will toward KD after today.
 
Buffnik said:
He missed a couple plays, but he made the plays that put CU into position to where the Buffs should have coasted to a win. I've got no ill will toward KD after today.
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He played his best game at Colorado by far. He made a monster one handed catch when we needed a score. IMO, the OL is the major liability of this team. They give up too many negative plays. They put us in bad spots when we need them to step up (holding on 3rd down run coversion in 4Q for 1st down when not even necessary). It starts with the coaches and their recruitment of this group. It ends with the players getting punked game after game.
 
manhattanbuf said:
He played his best game at Colorado by far. He made a monster one handed catch when we needed a score. IMO, the OL is the major liability of this team. They give up too many negative plays. They put us in bad spots when we need them to step up (holding on 3rd down run coversion in 4Q for 1st down when not even necessary). It starts with the coaches and their recruitment of this group. It ends with the players getting punked game after game.
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It's been the elephant in the room for 6 years
 
patebuff said:
It's been the elephant in the room for 6 years
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I don’t even think it’s physical talent or failings. I see confusion in the OL regularly, or schematic flawed attempts to ask a OL to reach to an unmakeable block (at least for him).

I biggest peeve is the inability to pick up simple DL twists in pass coverage. That is just basic and has little to do wth talent level.
 
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