What if the NFL tickets cuts a deal with DTV, but it is not exclusive. Then NFL goes to DISH and charges them 30 cents on the dollar compared to the DTV deal. That would be delicious.
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What if the NFL tickets cuts a deal with DTV, but it is not exclusive. Then NFL goes to DISH and charges them 30 cents on the dollar compared to the DTV deal. That would be delicious.
NashBuff
CSU Knob-Slobberer
I'm still waiting on the day that the Pac-12 Network can be streamed online for like a $9.99 monthly sub or something like that. I have cut cable TV out completely and I don't regret that decision. Based on the number of people unplugging from cable TV, Larry Scott better get his stuff together or he will be gone sooner than later.
There's more to PACN being headquartered in Silicon Valley instead of Los Angeles than just keeping it close to the conference office.
"never happen" all this google talk etc is a pipe dream
isamudysan
Member
i was very lucky and fortunate to be watching all of the buffs game this year -- streamed for FREE. that's right FREE!!!! the game against csu was from a streaming site (not to be named -- PM me if you want it), and the rest was from, actually, the pac12 (again, PM me if you want the info as well). yeah, i was a happy camper to be watching all of the buff's FB game. heck, i even downloaded all of the football game this season LOL (PM me if you want this info, too).
Junction
Club Member
Except the NFL deals will have the same protections for the carriers that the PAC-12 deals have. Give somebody a discounted price after you sign a higher cost deal with another carrier and they both get that price.
Come on Junction what happened, you used to be sharp.
That is what TV, Radio, and newspaper's said years ago when someone said the internet was going to steal their lunch - how is that going for them?
Speaking more holistically about the industry, it will take live sports to truly disrupt the existing model. Everyone know this, and this is why all the leagues are commanding premiums.
In the us, the nfl is the crown jewel by far. It isn't even close. The bidding for Sunday ticket is going to be epic.
If google or amazon or Microsoft win it, it will be a historic shift. one thing I wonder about is reach. The nfl doesn't want people struggling to get their games. Another is whether they will do any real exclusive deal this next time or if they will effectively go direct via multiple distribution channels.
In terms of the business of tv, this is the one to watch. There will be fallout including for the p12.
EddieCrowder
Well-Known Member
The NFL has denied there is a renewal in place, Directv is saying they are "close". Translation, not set to announce the deal yet, probably will happen Super Bowl week at the media blitz. Those that think Scott has not lost are dreaming, and any "sports bar" that doesn't have Sunday Ticket is so in name only. The NFL rules the sports world, just because it does not rule your small little portion matters little. In the grand scheme of televised sports, the PAC XII network is small potatoes, it only matters to fans that can't get it. If Scott wants to grow this thing he should cut the cost to the others and get DTV on his side, or find a way to get it to the fans that want it via whatever format suits him. Cutting the cost in the end still translates into much more net revenue in subscriber numbers alone. If this continues its about ego, not principal.
Fixed for accuracy.
At the risk of repeating myself, DTV will not, ever, yield to what Scott wants. DTV does not want the P12 at the same price/terms as everyone else. The deal will not happen anytime soon. If you want P12, you have to go elsewhere. DTV is the spinoff/successor to Hughes satellite, bought by GM. They have loads of money and do not care about P12. As others have said, they have NFL Sunday Ticket, and that is 95% of the battle. I could be more detailed based on some conversations I have had with a muckity muck at DTV, but really does not serve any purpose. Bottom line: if you want P12 get a different provider. Waiting on DTV is a fool's errand...it isn't going to happen.
jahbrahakala
Member
Can't see how DTV wins. Their subscribers lose if they want the PAC. I know several folks just waiting for their contracts to expire to make the switch. This fall was enough for them. I know we've only chosen bars that carry the PAC when we go out for a game. We don't consider DTV only establishments. DTV has 20% of the market, the other 80% provides plenty alternatives. Choices will be made eventually.
jahbrahakala
Member
Sounds like we're on the same page... as far as PAC viewers go. Make the switch.
SuperiorBuff
Well-Known Member
I probably watch the PAC 12 network as much as any other now. It's in my top 2 choices when I do sit down to watch tv.
Exactly.
What about when you stand?
SuperiorBuff
Well-Known Member
I try not to stand too often, I tend to block the other family members view.
I don't think the conference should give in and offer a lower deal. Football and basketball drive college ratings, the Olympic and ladies sports are gravy for viewers. With the PAC 12 getting stronger on the national scale with both sports the demand will increase.
EddieCrowder
Well-Known Member
I am not talking about the random house changing subscriptions, that is strictly personal preference. I am talking about growing the product, and product value. Comparing the PAC XII network to the NFL is the equivalent of taking on a fully armed tank with a BB gun. For the Conference to gain national respect their product needs more exposure, and limiting it is folly. Right now because of where I live its a choice between watching the Broncos or Buffs, considering the products its an easy choice.
DTV values the Pac network at pennies on the dollar compared to the Big 10 Network.
That shouldn't be good enough for any Pac fan.
Cutting a deal with DTV on DTV's terms will severely limit long-term revenue.
I expect movement between DTV and the PAC12 someday, but I believe it will occur only after the NFL Ticket deal next year. No reason to believe that, but I left DTV after they couldn't sign up with the Pac12 after having given them a year to do so earlier this Fall.
I still couldn't be happier with the decision to leave DTV after 14 years...
That shouldn't be good enough for any Pac fan.
Cutting a deal with DTV on DTV's terms will severely limit long-term revenue.
I expect movement between DTV and the PAC12 someday, but I believe it will occur only after the NFL Ticket deal next year. No reason to believe that, but I left DTV after they couldn't sign up with the Pac12 after having given them a year to do so earlier this Fall.
I still couldn't be happier with the decision to leave DTV after 14 years...
EddieCrowder
Well-Known Member
There have been several reports on this topic since Thanksgiving. Reports that have Scott backing off his "hell or high water stance" because he needs viewers and revenue. As the old saying goes, having part of something is better then 100% of nothing. I have attached a link to an interesting view, one I have now heard several times.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/predictionten123013.htm
http://www.tvpredictions.com/predictionten123013.htm
From the article linked above:
The bolded part is key, they need to get all the exposure they can especially since they're working at the disadvantage that comes with the Pacific time zone.
The bolded part is key, they need to get all the exposure they can especially since they're working at the disadvantage that comes with the Pacific time zone.
EddieCrowder
Well-Known Member
What is most interesting is the comments about the existing deals and saying they don't matter. The continual chatter has been you can't go back on your word to them. When the fact is and has been those deals don't matter. As I have continually said, buy 10 of said item the price is one number, buy 1000 of said item and it's a different number.
bigbang2
blindslighted
Also don't forget the new regional sports fee of about $3.
bigbang2
blindslighted
Pac 12 network is in HD on DISH.
BuffNut99
Club Member
Isn't that your local provider's choice in what it offers? Comcast in CO has the full PAC12 complement in HD.