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Future opening game
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Jax
I'm schizophrenic about this. On the one hand, I don't hate any team with as much vitriol (except maybe Notre Dame, Nebraska*, and Florida) as I do CSU. Ergo, I want to kick the crap out of them every year. HOWEVER, the fact that we really gain nothing from playing, and lose everything if we lose, makes me NOT want to ever play them.
Nebraska on the other hand, I would love to play them every year. At least if we lose in any particular year, it's not as much as a nut punch. And I hate them and there is history there.
BuffLuke80
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Gotcha.
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It would mean everything to me to play ND again in Miami, not in Denver but for the match up if both brands have value again.
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Please not in early September, though. That would be horrible even at night.
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Agreed...I was thinking more along the lines of a late season game similar to SC & ND.
Unleash Hell
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My wife just got back from Miami and she says getting back to Colorado was more miserable regarding weather
Washington State scheduled one game a year at Qwest/CenturyLink Field in Seattle for a little over a decade. The Buffs played there in 2006. (I think it was 2006.) Fun trip.
That was my last Buff roadie!
Ringer
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As many games at Folsom as possible is the way to go. Keep feeding the culture of the students feeling like they really want to attend every home game. It's happening. I recently got a text from my CU student-daughter saying something like [paraphrased from memory] "can you send me $125 to buy the student sports pass? I feel like buying all the game tickets will be more than that." Indeed, they would. Plus, you get into all the basketball games as well. I said yes. There really is a change in the sports culture and support amongst the students in the past 3 years.
Exactly. I'd much rather take a roadie to an actual iconic college stadium and all that goes with that (traditions, tailgating, local bars and restaurants, etc.) than go to some sterile NFL stadium in Dallas, Santa Clara, or Vegas.
For Wazzou it makes sense. Most of their in-state alumni are going to be in or around Seattle. The college is 4 1/2 hours away with no weather or traffic issues.
CU is a different deal. Take away the game day traffic delays and the bulk of CU's in state alumni live within an hour of Boulder, almost all less than two hours.
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Home and Home's would be preferable, the last real special game to me played at Folsom was GA. None of the games since held the "this isn't going to happen again" feel. What I miss most about the 80 & 90's was the take on all comers mentality.
BuffLuke80
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We aren't quite ready for that just yet but I feel ya. It's why I became a CU fan more than anything else. We'd play anybody.
I think doing it against a top tier school is the best choice, neutral or no. The SEC, who seem to do these big kickoff games more than most recently, have learned that 1) you need at least one OOC game against a ranked team on your schedule for strength of schedule purposes, 2) that losing the first game of the season is significantly less damaging to your end of season bowl/playoff hopes than games later in the season, and 3) football fans crave big match-ups early in the season after months without football, and you get a lot of exposure on national television with these games which is great for early recruiting. Nobody protects themselves better than SEC teams, so my guess is their philosophy is that if they're going to have to play a tough OOC game, it might as well be really tough one, and be as early in the season as possible to protect their end of season ranking and to give recruiting a push.
Take our case with last year's game against Michigan. We lost, but playing them close was up there with the Oregon and Stanford wins in terms of national attention. Playing CSU is a no win. Playing Nebraska would be a lot better. Playing a top tier team would be nearly a no lose, unless we got boat raced. But even getting blown out by an Alabama or FSU or Clemson wouldn't be as damaging as losing to CSU. Smart scheduling is extremely important with the setup of the NCAA now.
Take our case with last year's game against Michigan. We lost, but playing them close was up there with the Oregon and Stanford wins in terms of national attention. Playing CSU is a no win. Playing Nebraska would be a lot better. Playing a top tier team would be nearly a no lose, unless we got boat raced. But even getting blown out by an Alabama or FSU or Clemson wouldn't be as damaging as losing to CSU. Smart scheduling is extremely important with the setup of the NCAA now.
There is such a difference in the atmosphere between walking through the parking lots at an NFL stadium and walking through campus at Boulder.
Each parking lot is it's own world, groups of students coming out of student housing, old friends who have used the games as a way to keep in touch over the years as their lives have progressed.
The Sackygate location adds to it. The band getting organized then marching by with the spirit squads.
At an NFL stadium you go see a game, at a quality college venue you are part of an event, even if the game itself isn't that good.
Beyond this, and something we don't discuss much here but the experience at a small college can be something else entirely. I hope this year I can get my kids down to Pueblo to see CSU-Pueblo play. Wristen has the program going down there and the fans turn out and enjoy it.
Each parking lot is it's own world, groups of students coming out of student housing, old friends who have used the games as a way to keep in touch over the years as their lives have progressed.
The Sackygate location adds to it. The band getting organized then marching by with the spirit squads.
At an NFL stadium you go see a game, at a quality college venue you are part of an event, even if the game itself isn't that good.
Beyond this, and something we don't discuss much here but the experience at a small college can be something else entirely. I hope this year I can get my kids down to Pueblo to see CSU-Pueblo play. Wristen has the program going down there and the fans turn out and enjoy it.
BuffLuke80
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I got one nobody has said, I don't think? How bout we play Georgia Tech somewhere? Only thing is they are hard to prepare for.
We play GT in a few years, home and home.
BuffLuke80
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Oh I didn't know that. Cool.
Virginia, Michigan State, Iowa, LSU, BC, Duke would all be cool.
The biggest problem with the CSU game isn't that it's in an NFL stadium. The biggest problem is due to two things:
1. It's a game we "should" win every single time, so we don't look good if we win, and we look terrible if we lose.
2. It's CSU's super bowl / "big rivalry" game, which increases the chance they win.
If we're playing a legit P5 team, even a top 5 team, in an opening game at an NFL stadium, neither of those two things are true anymore.
If we win, we'll get real credit for beating a real team on a neutral field. If we lose, it doesn't look terrible. And it won't be the biggest game of the year for them, so they won't have an artificial advantage.
1. It's a game we "should" win every single time, so we don't look good if we win, and we look terrible if we lose.
2. It's CSU's super bowl / "big rivalry" game, which increases the chance they win.
If we're playing a legit P5 team, even a top 5 team, in an opening game at an NFL stadium, neither of those two things are true anymore.
If we win, we'll get real credit for beating a real team on a neutral field. If we lose, it doesn't look terrible. And it won't be the biggest game of the year for them, so they won't have an artificial advantage.