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Howell reports Callier not listed on roster this week.
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BlackNGold
Club Member
He is leaving - Tucker announced at the press conference.
jizzrag85
Well-Known Member
holy ****. Will we even field a team next year? Lol this is just brutal. We had no depth and fired our coach, tons of kids left. We really had no depth, everyone got injured, now the lack of depth is transferring.
it’s not like we have 4 star athletes waiting in the wings to commit to all the newly opened roster spots. I’m getting nervous now.
RuffBuff
Club Member
I'm obviously just speculating and writing stories here, but perhaps WE didn't think CU needed an "entire rebuild" based on our unwittingly low expectations given the last 15 years and the norm in the Pac 12, but based on HCMT and his UGA/Bama/SEC standards, CU more than needs a ground up rebuild?
I'll trust in his process until it's time to no longer trust him.
I still don't think this is a full scale rebuild. We need some pieces on defense (and perhaps some coaches) to back to a middling Pac12 defense. Get a decent GT QB, and the offense carries you into a bowl.
If he is going to burn it down, wouldn't he have to play with fire?
Yeah - He is the guy, and if he gave the team a test run this year and came away that it wasn't going to be better than mediocre, then I'm fine with the rebuild I guess.
Hope he is right, because i'm tired of bad football
IMO (speculating)...
These divorces are mutual. Coach Tucker is demanding more from the players. They’re unwilling or unable to provide more. They feel like they’ve given enough already and demand more from Coach Tucker. Homie don’t play that way, so the guys are moving on.
It is ugly. It is uncomfortable. It is risky.
However, Coach Tucker came here to raise the standard. Some players aren’t able to meet the standard. Others aren’t willing to try.
What do you do when someone demands more than their effort and talent dictate?
What do you do when someone isn’t able to fit the bill for what you’re seeking in a player?
These divorces are mutual. Coach Tucker is demanding more from the players. They’re unwilling or unable to provide more. They feel like they’ve given enough already and demand more from Coach Tucker. Homie don’t play that way, so the guys are moving on.
It is ugly. It is uncomfortable. It is risky.
However, Coach Tucker came here to raise the standard. Some players aren’t able to meet the standard. Others aren’t willing to try.
What do you do when someone demands more than their effort and talent dictate?
What do you do when someone isn’t able to fit the bill for what you’re seeking in a player?
BlackNGold
Club Member
I agree, I think Tucker is trying to change the culture and some people are not on board with the plan.
So how much turnover have we seen since Tucker has taken over?
DB - Wigley, Blackmon, Hypolite, Kevin George, Maddox
DL/OLB - Callier, Finau
TE - Jones
Is that it to this point or am I missing anyone?
Obviously it would have been nice having Wigley, Blackmon, Maddox and Hypolite for this season to help with depth and hopefully get to a bowl game, but none of those are bad losses for the future, IMO. I liked the potential of Hypolite, and it sounds like he was doing well until he violated rules or whatever, so maybe he is a loss.
DB - Wigley, Blackmon, Hypolite, Kevin George, Maddox
DL/OLB - Callier, Finau
TE - Jones
Is that it to this point or am I missing anyone?
Obviously it would have been nice having Wigley, Blackmon, Maddox and Hypolite for this season to help with depth and hopefully get to a bowl game, but none of those are bad losses for the future, IMO. I liked the potential of Hypolite, and it sounds like he was doing well until he violated rules or whatever, so maybe he is a loss.
Antwine.
Was that turnover from Tucker being hired or macintyre and his staff moving on?
I had forgotten that many DB's bailed.
homesick
Callier aint a big loss. The DBs are the problem.
Necessary.
Fair, but I don't count him in the context of this discussion.
No your point is correct. We have lost no difference makers.
Just culling bad apples and underperformers. Routine and necessary in culture shift. .
And the numbers are not that dramatic. Most quality programs have multiple players leave each year.
We are just in a panic because unlike most of those programs we don't have the depth of talent to absorb.
Tucker has a lot to say about this around 17:00. Explains all 3 guys and then goes into it more globally. Legit response to a tough situation.
What I infer and appreciate, is that HCMT is communicating and demanding players meet expectations. And if both sides don't 'agree', then he's letting them know now so that they can get in the transfer portal without losing this season (without playing more than four games).