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If it's a Pac-12 / Big 12 merger, what would be the best 16-20 teams?
- Thread starter Buffnik
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It likely isn't in the cards for CU to part of one of those two conferences at this point in time, but there is likely another decade of moves to be made before the sport settles on what will likely be the lasting structure that resembles something close to the NFL. We'll see how the CU football program manages between now and then to determine whether CU football is included in that structure or not.
I’m starting to think that the B12 and PAC 12 dissolve and select members of each form their own 14-16 team conference. That sucks for schools like UCF and WVA, but they’re probably better off in the ACC anyway, and the ACC has room for them.
I like them all better that bolting with UA, ASU and Utah to make a Big 16. I think I lean toward Option 1 even though that's probably the most politically challenging due each conference leaving long-time members and rivals behind.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
So many of these “what if” scenarios ultimately have teams outside the P5 being added to make up these news conferences. That can’t be financially viable. Adding SMU and Memphis to a merged Big12 and Pac12? What??
The only way all this consolidation makes conferences more money is at some point several schools have to be left without a seat, otherwise it’s just rearranging deck chairs.
Side note: Rutgers is the luckiest f**king school in all this as it stands.
Yeah, everyone is so fixated on making an even number of teams for Pods for some reason. Every conference is getting rid of divisions, so I don't know why it all keeps getting presented as such with teams being added specifically to fill out a specific pod.
IMO, the only scenario in that piece that makes any sense is Option 1
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
It makes you wonder how much more valuable CU would be right now if we were a perennial top 25 program the last decade + instead of a P5 doormat. All the other metrics seem to be there, it’s pretty infuriating that terrible management and allowing the program to languish because winning hasn’t been a priority is why we’re in this situation.
CU probably becomes more valuable than 10-12 current BIG and SEC members if we’re an 8-9 win program the last 10 years or so.
Look at the support the program got in 2016. Folsom was packed, multiple games were in prime time slots, local and national media were talking about us. Colorado is a fairweather sports state, outside of the Broncos, for sure, but that extends to CU the same way. People are dying for a good football program in Boulder and the ratings would absolutely come. Hopefully that would be part of the pitch to the B1G, but definitely feels like the answer would be, "let's see how you invest in the program over the next 3-5 years and we'll revisit the ratings and discussion then"
Im having negative flashbacks just thinking about it.
Exactly.
If you start with zero-based accounting instead of worrying about existing affiliations, things look a lot different.
You need the main media markets of SF, DFW and Houston. Seattle, Phoenix, Denver, San Diego, Portland, SLC, Las Vegas, KC, OKC and Cincinnati are the next tier for maximizing media revenue. Once you've got that covered, there's only additional value if the school brings something extra to the party (for example, UA with hoops & boosters, Baylor with program prestige & boosters, BYU with church & network).
IM loling at the idea of the “Pacific pod” of the B1G where all the teams are familiar with each other and still cant recruit.
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jumped ship
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I'm pretty much done caring, but I'd prefer that religiously affiliated schools with questionable histories (BYU, Baylor) aren't given a preferred spot
Sometimes you have to take the life preserver that is available when you jump ship.
I think you will see the divisions or pods stick around in some manner simply for scheduling purposes even though they no longer matter for the title game.
Yep. Pods is for scheduling. Championship game selections will be divisionless - just the 2 highest-ranked teams to give the conference its best shot at a playoff invite. I think that's where we were all headed even if the SEC & B1G hadn't shaken things up so much with UT/OU/USC/UCLA expansion.
It is the only way to make travel make sense (and cents) and to build any kind of traditions and rivalries which is/was the foundation of CFB.
Groundhog
Well-Known Member
That's BS, if Harvard wanted to join the B1G they would be welcome with open arms, regardless of their athletics.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
You really believe that?
ESPN actually has a pretty massive incentive for the Big 12 to be the conference that loses the Big 12 / PAC Whatever death match.
CULifer
Well-Known Member
We negotiate our butts into the B1G by taking a reduction in conference share for an extended amount of time, just to get in so that in 2028-30 (somewhere in there) we gain our full share. It's B1G or bust for me. Nubs and MI State regularly played in conference is too good to pass up and gets eyeballs and tickets and $$$.
We need to put on some makeup, get a full makeover actually, and make ourselves as attractive as we possibly can by negotiating futures at reduced initial price.
And bring that gun that Chip crushed his balls with…might be a better alternative to being rejected by the B1G.