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Jabari Walker Beast Mode Appreciation Thread

OK, should he not have stayed if this is his contract?
If he came back, dominated the PAC12 season, was named All PAC12 again, and was drafted let's say #10 next year, he would have the same guaranteed contract in year 1, and then he would have over $20 million by his 4th year.

He wasn't going to move up close to that far. At best he might have moved to the top of the second round, maybe even one of the last picks of the first round, high 20s.

Or he could have done like Richard Roby and come back only to suffer an injury and end up playing everywhere but the NBA.

This way he is with a young team that is rebuilding and will get plenty of opportunity to prove he belongs in the league while having enough guaranteed money to put aside a nice chunk for even if it doesn't work out.

Get to the end of that 3rd year on the contract and if he has developed into a starter or even a top bench player his next contract will be solid.
 
WTF is your problem, I am actually just asking a math question related to how he was not able to convince teams to draft him higher despite his ability.
Honestly, he should have transferred to Duke or somewhere, and maybe he does go 10th
We all love Buffs MBB, but Jabari was slept on and while he can earn it back, it is too bad that Benedict Cumberbatch Matherin has a fat contract cause he was from Arizona (blue blood)
Do you understand the time-value of money? He is going to make at least a couple of million dollars in the next two years no matter what. Let’s say that he gets injured next year regardless of college or pro. Does he get drafted in top 10? No, but he is still a millionaire by playing in the NBA. What if he plays extremely well? Well, he’d have the $20 million cap by staying. If he plays extremely well for the Blazers, he would be on his way to making $10-20 million PER YEAR with a huge extension.
 
WTF is your problem, I am actually just asking a math question related to how he was not able to convince teams to draft him higher despite his ability.
Honestly, he should have transferred to Duke or somewhere, and maybe he does go 10th
We all love Buffs MBB, but Jabari was slept on and while he can earn it back, it is too bad that Benedict Cumberbatch Matherin has a fat contract cause he was from Arizona (blue blood)
I don’t have a problem. You have stated several times in this thread that he shouldn’t go to the draft and he will likely end up in the G League. He proved you wrong and you’re still standing by your incorrect statement. Time to move on. You were wrong.
 
Do you understand the time-value of money? He is going to make at least a couple of million dollars in the next two years no matter what. Let’s say that he gets injured next year regardless of college or pro. Does he get drafted in top 10? No, but he is still a millionaire by playing in the NBA. What if he plays extremely well? Well, he’d have the $20 million cap by staying. If he plays extremely well for the Blazers, he would be on his way to making $10-20 million PER YEAR with a huge extension.
This.

Draft choices in the NBA are valuable in large part because the rookie salary scale forces contract values down, even (or especially) for those in the lottery. The real money comes with the second contract. Even mid-level bench players will make more on the second contract than they did on their rookie deal as a mid- first round pick.

For Jabari coming out one year early means that if he performs like it looks like he will he will be one year faster to his second deal.
 
This.

Draft choices in the NBA are valuable in large part because the rookie salary scale forces contract values down, even (or especially) for those in the lottery. The real money comes with the second contract. Even mid-level bench players will make more on the second contract than they did on their rookie deal as a mid- first round pick.

For Jabari coming out one year early means that if he performs like it looks like he will he will be one year faster to his second deal.
Anyone know NBA contracts well?

Rookie contracts are for 4 years, with a team option (non-guaranteed) in years 3 & 4.

Jabari's deal is 3 years with the 2nd partially guaranteed and 3rd is a non-guaranteed club option.

Does being a Rd2 pick (or getting promoted from a 2-way) get you to your 2nd deal more quickly in the NBA?
 
Anyone know NBA contracts well?

Rookie contracts are for 4 years, with a team option (non-guaranteed) in years 3 & 4.

Jabari's deal is 3 years with the 2nd partially guaranteed and 3rd is a non-guaranteed club option.

Does being a Rd2 pick (or getting promoted from a 2-way) get you to your 2nd deal more quickly in the NBA?
Far from an expert but IIRC first round picks are automatically guaranteed for one or two years (depending on draft position) as are early second round picks. Later second round picks are not automatically guaranteed but can be shorter.

An explanation

NBA rookie contracts explained​

There are a number of rules when it comes to NBA rookie contracts. A rookie contract is given to any player that has never before played in the league regardless of age. The current NBA collective bargaining agreement prevents any player from entering the league under the age of 19. This is why the “one and done” term for top-end college players is so common. These players graduate high school, play one season of college ball, then enter the NBA (usually through the draft).


There is no upper age limit for an NBA player. Italian point guard Pablo Prigioni played all over Europe for years before signing for the New York Knicks on the NBA Rookie minimum at a record age of 35 years old in 2012.


Players selected in the first round of the NBA draft are given four-year contracts. Only the first two years of the deal are fully guaranteed with the team having options for the third and fourth years. Second-round draft picks and undrafted free agents can sign contracts that can be anything from one year to four years and that are either fully guaranteed or not guaranteed at all. This is where a good agent makes all the difference.
This from here with a further explanation of the money.

https://franchisesports.co.uk/nba-rookie-contracts-explained/

It looks like Jabari played well enough in Summer League that Portland was willing to give him guaranteed money in exchange for having him under contract for the full four years permitted by the CBA.
 
I don’t have a problem. You have stated several times in this thread that he shouldn’t go to the draft and he will likely end up in the G League. He proved you wrong and you’re still standing by your incorrect statement. Time to move on. You were wrong.
Timeout
He did prove me wrong and that is great
I am passed the he should stay or go, but was actually curious about the math of NBA contracts cause it did not add up in my mind. Glad to be proven wrong, and will cheer for Jabari all the time, except against the Nuggets
 
Jabari is an elite rebounder. It was noticeable the moment he first stepped on the floor in Boulder. If he can shoot the 3 in the high 30s consistently, which as we all know is very reasonable, he can have a long lucrative career with those 2 skills alone.
Shooting usually improves when basketball becomes your full time job.
 
WTF is your problem, I am actually just asking a math question related to how he was not able to convince teams to draft him higher despite his ability.
Honestly, he should have transferred to Duke or somewhere, and maybe he does go 10th
We all love Buffs MBB, but Jabari was slept on and while he can earn it back, it is too bad that Benedict Cumberbatch Matherin has a fat contract cause he was from Arizona (blue blood)
Except he may not have gotten playing time at Arizona.
 
Anyone know NBA contracts well?

Rookie contracts are for 4 years, with a team option (non-guaranteed) in years 3 & 4.

Jabari's deal is 3 years with the 2nd partially guaranteed and 3rd is a non-guaranteed club option.

Does being a Rd2 pick (or getting promoted from a 2-way) get you to your 2nd deal more quickly in the NBA?
I believe second rounders with deals like this one are eligible for extensions in the second paid year. If they don’t sign an extension then and the team activates the third year option, they have another opportunity for extension in that year since the third year is guaranteed. If that doesn’t happen, he’d become a Rookie Free Agent. AFAIK, it looks like that’s similar to a Restricted Free Agent in other sports.
 
No matter what, Jabari will make great money playing basketball. He should be set for life. That said, CU fans want to see him reach the highest level he can. That’s what is fun for fans.
 
No matter what, Jabari will make great money playing basketball. He should be set for life. That said, CU fans want to see him reach the highest level he can. That’s what is fun for fans.
Well, tell him to stay out of Safeway or he won't be set for life.
 
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