Slade (Agree or Disagree) : Penn St should fire Joe Pa for his inaction in this matter.
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JoPa and his entire staff should be fired
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Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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So it wouldn't bother you if one of your kids was sexually abused, and you found out that people knew about it and did nothing? Or that the abuser had done this before but was protected by his friends?
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Agree.
Penn State should clean house. Clean slate from top to bottom. Allow Paterno to coach out the remainder of the season, thank him for his years of service as football coach - and move on down the road.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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I'm sure it would bother me tremendously.
If you judge right and wrong by whether you do (or don't do) what is legally required, that would allow you to say that being a party to certain things is "right" as long as the rules said so. I hope that's not what you're saying.
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Hold on a sec. Are you saying there's nothing wrong with looking the other way when a child is raped, so long as you cover your own ass in the process?
But since it was other people's kids, you don't care, eh?
Wow. How any parent can look at this through any lense other than outrage is beyond me. I certainly can't do it. I would want other people to look after my kids just as I would do the same
You sound like you would be ready to write a strongly worded letter...
Not gonna say much about JoePa but to say he was the head of this and did nothing. He should be ashamed for life. The GA doesnt get a pass imho, neither does anybody else with any knowledge whatsoever. Maybe the GA freaked out, I dont know, im sure that would be an unthinkable situation to be in. However, how unthinkable do you think it was for that little boy in that shower? His life is pretty much ruined because of it, doesnt end it but I cant imagine getting it out of your mind. In the mean time, you are now a coach at Penn St. I hope its gone ****ing well for you buddy.
I'm not sure, but I sense a little West Texas whoop-ass indignation in your posts on this topic...maybe I am wrong. If I am not, I'm right there with you. Whenever I think about this I want to punch someone.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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What is right and what is wrong depends tremendously on your own point of view. Your version of "what's right" might be totally different than mine. That doesn't mean that either (or both) of us is correct/incorrect.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Perhaps.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Of course I care. I think it is horrible what is alleged to have occurred. But I also think there is a lot of anger transference going on in all this.
Bull****. Having sex with kids is wrong. So is covering it up so a lifelong friend doesn't get in trouble.
There is no grey area here, Slade.
You don't care. You said you don't think Paterno did anything wrong, yet you also said it would bother you tremendously had this been your child involved.
You just don't care because it doesn't affect you personally.
nycskibum
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Paterno covered it up? I thought he passed the information he was given along to the administration?
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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You'll get no disagreement from me there.
You'll get no disagreement from me there, either.
Thankfully, Joe Paterno did not have sex with kids, and he passed the information about the alleged sex on to his superiors for handling, as he was required to do.
Whew. Glad we're finally on the same page.
Moral relativism is bunk.
In some cultures, they have decided that community stability is enhanced if they can prevent their women from committing adultery. Marital betrayals and children of uncertain paternity can be a problem. They found the perfect solution was to cut off the clitoris and do some vaginal mutilation on all their women while they are young girls. This way, their women will never feel sexual pleasure and have no reason to stray.
Who are we to say that it's wrong to do that to these girls?
Yeah sadness and disgust often turns to anger with me, call it a character flaw. I wear my emotions on my sleeve I guess. Being a dad, I just cant imagine any of this and how these people didnt act? Who give a **** whether it costs you a job? Maybe my priorities are backwards in today's world but right and wrong is much more important than a career move to me. I dont know how this GA has lived with this if of course he saw what was reported, **** JoePa, Im intervening myself or calling the police or doing something. I dont know man, just dont know.
Wow, that seems complicated, I always just used a chastity belt....
Slade - I gotta tell you, your reaction to all this is an indicator of why so many people have problems with lawyers and the legal profession. This isn't about what was legal and illegal. It was about what was right and wrong. Your unwillingness to cross that line between legal and ethical is what is causing the problem here.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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the fact is, he called upon JoPa. JoPa and the admin told him to keep his ****ing mouth shut. JoPa is just as complicit as the GA if not moreso
Certainly the easy answer. I'd suspect the psychologists would say that there is some kind of shock and disbelief thing that happens to people in a situation like that. But I'm no psychologist and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.