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Larry Scott not happy with Bruce Benson
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eh. zipper division may be our last best hope.
Why is it that the ACC is publicly discussing pods and Scott isn't?
Pods will make everyone happy. It gives everyone access to all the recruiting and fundraising grounds. It cuts down on travel expenses. It allows everyone to play everyone more than twice every 8 years. It makes a conference feel like a conference, instead of two semi-conferences. 2-3 mega-conferences pushing for pods and 2-tier conference playoffs will make the NCAA fold like a tent. It seems like a simple solution.
Pods will make everyone happy. It gives everyone access to all the recruiting and fundraising grounds. It cuts down on travel expenses. It allows everyone to play everyone more than twice every 8 years. It makes a conference feel like a conference, instead of two semi-conferences. 2-3 mega-conferences pushing for pods and 2-tier conference playoffs will make the NCAA fold like a tent. It seems like a simple solution.
Scott is. He just has to be careful because of the ingrained politics within the PAC. He did say creative scheduling that gives every team equal access to each of the conference areas. That's code for pods.
The Guest
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Yes, seriously Cal84...thanks, you've been very unifying.
Similarly, the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan provided the incentive for the tribes, ethnicities and villages to set aside their differences to oppose the occupation.
How has the USA avoided this problem Wally? I hear rumblings of a nationalistic uprising.
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Well, I've had to keep my head down for a day-or-two now--it got a little exciting. But despite that, you'll be happy to know that it's a much more isolated resistance the U.S. and erh allies are facing. It's a committed group of Pashtuns, in three different groups, mostly, but much more limited than what the Soviets faced.
We're approaching it a lot differently too.
Hah - just a little lebensraum?
Well, the kill entire villages approach isn't exactly the US's style, so that is good. Glad you are keeping your head down. If you get killed fishing, fish head won't be funny anymore.
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It might be...it really depends on how I get killed, no?
True, but we probably won't get the details, so will have to make **** up. Given the fishing mission, I figure thats the direction we will go. This is the internet, and allbuffs, and we don't let a lack of detail stop us from creating a narrative.
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But I suspect that the narrative will be funny, and therefore fish-head will continue to be funny too.
If Rugged and BP have anything to say, it will still be funny. But they are damned to hell, and I am damned by association. Not sure that is a good thing.
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The BearInsider forum has mentioned on several occasions that the Cal fans are not very unified in their opinions.
Cal84's deaf ear to CU's warning about Texas joining the Pac might be part of his master plan to unify the Cal fan base with a strong dose of UT-in-your-conference therapy.
Having Texas in the P12 will focus those disorganized bears against a clear and present aggressor that threatens their way of life.
Allbuffs appear to be taking a page from fmr president Bush when he used the threat of terrorism to unify America.
If we really want to help Cal84 achieve his mission to bringing the Cal fan base together, then we ought encourage the University of Texas to crash their longhorns into our conference.
/sarcasm
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You are doing it wrong.
Judging by your font, that means he's doing it right. Right?
No, in that case, the font was an example.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
nice. May have to rep for history nowledege.
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Cal84
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TV distribution? Even rednecks get cable. And you are going to have a tough time arguing that viewership rates are poor in SEC land. It's just a fact that the SEC footprint is 25% bigger by population than the Big12 footprint and that gap grew even larger once it became the Little10.
Like most people in this country you wind up subscribing to the "One Great Man" theory. Sometimes valid in medieval times, it is increasingly less so as societies get larger and larger. A great B12 commish would have helped that conference, but unlike "great men" who come and go, economic demographics marches on relentlessly. I'm sure you think it's just a coincidence that the "great" conference commissioners belong to conferences with the demographic advantages while buffoon commissioners belong to the conferences without those advantages, right?
Edit: Oh, and I didn't get a MBA from Cal. I got one from a certain expensive, high faluttin' private east coast school. In retrospect the Berkeley degree was more valuable.
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I am critisizing your ham-fisted correlation between conference viability and population density and economic might. Using your argument, the Big East and ACC should be stronger than they are relative to the SEC. The SEC territory overlaps the ACC and a bunch of smaller conferences. The major city in SEC-land is Atlanta. TV markets drop pretty fast thereafter. You'd have to explain your footprint numbers a little more precisely when comparing the SEC to the B12. For example, are you giving all of Florida and all of South Carolina to the SEC when those states are also heavily influenced by the ACC?
I also don't think your Great Man argument is particularly relevant regarding the role that Dan Beebe played in the B12's demise. Dan Beebe was not a great man in terms of being at the helm of the B12. A Great Man would have done a better job expanding east or west. Expanding with a Louisville or BYU or New Mexico would address some of those growth concerns. More importantly, a strong conference leader would recognize that a conference can only be as strong as it's weakest member.
When some members of a conference are more equal than others, it breeds the type of contempt that accelerates animosity and defection.
The B12's willingness to run a loose affiliation that promotes self-interest ahead of a strong confederation and expansion, then the conference will fail, regardless of the economic demographics.
In summary, you continue to ascribe to economic demographics while ignoring the role of governance.
UT is ungovernable under any sort of confederation. This important point renders your economic/demographic areguemrnt largely immaterial.
Cal fan, although he is losing the argument, has brought up good points. I applaud him, and wonder "what if" the regents had ditched the big 12 in 1994?
I'm starting to get confused on whether we're talking about college athletic conference realignment or 20th Century European politics and economic game theory...
Can I call you Winston now?