I really liked it when Bob Knight was a color guy years back, thought it was pretty cool. Not sure if ESPN didnt like it, or he got tired of it.
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Lookalike & Game thread - #20/21 (AP/ Coaches polls)/ #21 (NET rankings) Men's bball at #59 (NET) ASU (Tempe, Thursday, 1/16, 7:00 PM MT, ESPN2)
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I really liked it when Bob Knight was a color guy years back, thought it was pretty cool. Not sure if ESPN didnt like it, or he got tired of it.
I don't think very many people like him and I don't think he likes other people too often. Not exactly a people person. But, damn, listening to him talk basketball for a couple hours was allsome. I felt like I was getting insight into a hoops PhD program. That said, I do prefer guys like that (Fran, Raftery) who also do a good job of keeping things fun while they educate me. Knight wasn't fun.
Fran is really good. I missed him on my original list. Raftery is more of in the Walton category for me, he's entertaining, I don't really learn a whole lot from him though.
jumped ship
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it’s amazing how bad the large majority of color commentators are...kind of reminds me of politics/government — I always scratch my head wondering how they somehow put themselves in a place to get those jobs when there are so many better folks out there
I’ve honestly preferred Mark Johnson and the former player (can’t remember his name) he calls games with this season. GB is also such a good commentator for Buffs football
I agree, mostly. Raftery and Walton are mostly about having fun and telling stories. But they also drop those great observations in the midst of that -- generally when someone does something exceptionally good or bad. And they'll do a great job of pointing out why something is winning basketball or not.
Scott Wilke. He was pretty terrible his first year, he's much better now. GB does a great job.
This is because most color commentators get hired based on having a name in the sport from something other than being an announcer or commentator. So they end up getting big jobs before they know how to do the job. Not a lot of them pay their dues the same way that the play-by-play guys must -- they hone their craft as they work their way up.
Knight was definitely a red ass. You're right about him knowing the game, though. I don't think I've ever heard a more knowledgeable coach before or since. Wooden was before my time. There have been so many great coaches, it'd be a lengthy list.
Larry Brown would have been amazing to hear on tv.
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I mean, Bennetti wore a tie with Jerry Garcia on it, pandering to the max
rodrigo
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The licking the tie stuff was flat out bizarro.
dyemeduke
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Dakich is my favorite for college. Some people don't like him for his outspoken thoughts on his podcast, but I think he's the best in college. For NBA, I love me some JVG. The guy entertains while providing quality thoughts.
My least favorite guys are the Final Four team of Rafftery, Hill, and Nantz. I hate Nantz. He provides no drama, and is so boring to me. He should only do golf imo. Rafftery is entertaining but is still relevant for one incredible call on Jerome Langs dunk. Hill is one of my favorite all time players, but he sucks so bad calling games. His commentating is so obvious...he says things that any teenager recognizes. And they call the biggest games?!?!
My least favorite guys are the Final Four team of Rafftery, Hill, and Nantz. I hate Nantz. He provides no drama, and is so boring to me. He should only do golf imo. Rafftery is entertaining but is still relevant for one incredible call on Jerome Langs dunk. Hill is one of my favorite all time players, but he sucks so bad calling games. His commentating is so obvious...he says things that any teenager recognizes. And they call the biggest games?!?!
Pretty much agree.
Also, for anyone here who is old enough to remember him -- Al McGuire is the GOAT of color commentators for MBB and it's not even close.
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unrelated: Grant Hill is the nicest human being who has any sort of celebrity that I’ve ever met. Bummer he had such terrible knees
Yep, injuries ruined that guy. He still had a good career. What could've been.
I had forgot about him. He was good. Damn good coach as well.
dyemeduke
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I think that's quite a stretch man. He has opened up quite a bit about his injuries. He had a bum ankle that he continued to play on, his team doctors didnt seem to help him w proper diagnosis, and then while playing through pain, it broke. I dont think Nikes would have helped prevent an injury from being aggravated to the point of failure. Someone needed to sit his ass down. He then had a staph infection following surgery. Ankles happen in all shoe brands. Hill's injury career wasnt a terrible injury like Rose, but a series of terrible medical decisions.