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MBB - Change & Commitment for 2023-24
- Thread starter Buffnik
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We lose no bigs, have a frosh big coming in and also a big coming off redshirt. That is already addressed. And even if it wasn't, shooting and turnovers were the main problems this season. We lack guards.
I am higher on Hurlburt than you are but like Lovering he comes from a part of the country with limited serious competition against other big men. Lovering is developing nicely and could be a force, Hurlburt will like Lovering take some time but I think could be quality as well, Diop is higher risk but athletic enough to be very high reward.
In light of all this your idea of bringing in a coach who knows how to develop big men makes a lot of sense.
And while getting a shooter would be a plus I still think that getting a guy with real PG skills and mentality would make a big difference for this program.
Have to have to have to clean up the turnovers.
Formerly_Medford
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In regards to Hurlburt, I believe Tad talked about him recently and said at start of camp, he had a steep learning curve, but now, if it weren't for the redshirt, he'd feel comfortable having him in the rotation.
This team plays out of control in transition too much of the time. Like a lot of men’s college basketball teams. Frustrating to watch that.
Great discussion in here. I live that we're fully turning over the wing spots. Desperately needed. Da Silva will never be the guy that he is needed to be as a leader, imo. Which is fine, he provides plenty of value. Need KJ to be the alpha and Cody to do some leadership work as well as a freshman.
Hope we can hope for one or two hired gun transfers
Hope we can hope for one or two hired gun transfers
The current squad lacks a pure SG. They have a RS Freshman who is injured often, and quality depth beyond that. This puts enormous pressure on the PG's to score, and we saw their shooting percentage and how they can lose games by having to do to much.
I agree with Nik, this unit has the Bigs. This team needs 2 quality SG's. Next would be another PG, in case KJ bolts after next season, then a PF to replace TDS.
This year's team had a PF lead the team in 3pt made and %. That screams SG as the major need.
I agree with Nik, this unit has the Bigs. This team needs 2 quality SG's. Next would be another PG, in case KJ bolts after next season, then a PF to replace TDS.
This year's team had a PF lead the team in 3pt made and %. That screams SG as the major need.
Formerly_Medford
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Where is KJ going? Surely you're not suggesting the NBA?!
After his Junior season, it is a possibility
No it isn’t. Small guards don’t get drafted early.
Formerly_Medford
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No...not even remotely. With his shooting? He's not going anywhere. No reason to even sweat it.
Lovering Offseason plan is:
Falconetti
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Add freethrows. It is the easiest thing to work on. Most of time kust by yourselves…no interuption…focus on mechanics…get your routine cemented etc.
500 per day at least. Should really be 1000 considering this season’s numbers. Golfers hit more than 1000/day (the ones that get good that is)
People need to stop categorizing Hulburt as a big.
Why? He's gonna guard 4 or 5.
you really think so? His game is on the perimeter on offense and he is in no way ready to guard any 4 or 5 in this conference.
Then he can't guard anyone in this conference.
Need wing presence in the worst way. The Clifford experiment has hurt me deeply. Have never seen a player have everything they need and do nothing with it
Preston Slaughter
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Did anyone see Ruffin on the bench in Vegas?
There are a lot of good takes in here.
I think there is going to be some unexpected attrition this off season and I'm very interested to see what Tad will do with the transfer restrictions removed.
There are a lot of ways to round out the roster and this is why Tad gets paid the big bucks. We better make hay while we have Williams.
There are a lot of good takes in here.
I think there is going to be some unexpected attrition this off season and I'm very interested to see what Tad will do with the transfer restrictions removed.
There are a lot of ways to round out the roster and this is why Tad gets paid the big bucks. We better make hay while we have Williams.
Formerly_Medford
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You realize he's already bigger than a Lovering, right? Listed as 5lbs heavier, plus he's a better athlete than Lawson.
I’ve seen them side by side a lot in warm ups this season and I’m not so sure about that. That said, the point is Hurlburt does not have any sort of 4 or 5 game or mentality. He was basically a stretch 3 in HS. Let’s be honest. He wasn’t posting anyone up or banging down low on defense.
Formerly_Medford
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No, but he's an above average athlete for 6'10". Runs very well, good lateral quickness and more explosive than Lovering.
If Siewert could learn to guard bigs, I trust Joe will be able to as well. I think you're taking too much stock in what people told you about his game 5 months ago.
To continue with the honesty, bigs from Wyoming or the Dakotas are not ever going to be banging down low. Their game has to change completely in college. Hurlburt could stay a perimeter player on offense, but that's not what he's going to be asked to do on defense.
I know several people have commented on cutting down the turnovers, but no one seems to be talking about decision making. That is KJ's biggest issue, IMO. He has been slightly better over the last 4-5 games, but for most of the season, he had a minimum of 2, and sometimes 4+ times where he thought he was Joe Montana throwing a 50 yd bomb to Jerry Rice - unfortunately he wasn't, and Nique isn't Rice.
Others (Hammond, Ruffin) also need to learn that no one on the team is 15' tall, and throwing balls that will reach the 12th row of CUEC aren't good choices, either.
All simple, mental errors.
Others (Hammond, Ruffin) also need to learn that no one on the team is 15' tall, and throwing balls that will reach the 12th row of CUEC aren't good choices, either.
All simple, mental errors.
If we're talking TOs, I do want to point out that the team directly addressed that in-season this year. From the start of Feb, they've averaged just 11.5 TOs/game -- that's a good # for a college team, and Tad has said in the past he feels 12-13ish is an appropriate number for his system.
More advanced? That's a 17.1% TO rate. Would've been good for top-100 nationally over the course of a full season. And, that's against a tough part of their schedule (acknowledging the home games against the NorCals to start the month.) Not saying it wasn't an issue, or that there isn't still room for improvement, just that they *did* improve as the year progressed.
More advanced? That's a 17.1% TO rate. Would've been good for top-100 nationally over the course of a full season. And, that's against a tough part of their schedule (acknowledging the home games against the NorCals to start the month.) Not saying it wasn't an issue, or that there isn't still room for improvement, just that they *did* improve as the year progressed.
Good info.
I am very happy if this team values the ball at an under-12 TO per game rate. It's not elite, but that's a number which probably doesn't cost us possessions vs the competition.
We can then gain a possession advantage by winning the glass.
I think Tad looks at #s too low as offensive complacency. i.e., two of our best TO games this year were @ UU and home vs USC, 6 TOs each -- those also happen to be the worst performances of the final 10 games of the year.
Since @Bone Buff made me look it up, we also closed with 74.4% from the line over the final 10 games, though that also includes the home UCLA game were 13/23 partially cost us the game.