Mike MacIntyre: Does He Make It Through 2016?

[Idot Buff]

Webb did not de-commit because of the offensive line issues. He left because Chev told him the job was his in order to secure Webb's commitment, then HCMM vetoed the guarantee when it became clear that Sefo would be back. Likely will mark the end of HCMM, IMO.

 

[Buffnik]

HCMM public persona is this nice guy who is working to turn this team around. He is the wrong coach for CU. He is a rambling drama queen and has no substance. He was unable to pull in a decent recruit until Leavitt and Chev arrived. I recently was told that he was the reason that Webb went running. Rick George needs to react quickly when the ship starts sinking. The high pitched lady-ish screaming on the field yesterday is not helping his cause. That over blown emotional outburst at the scrimmage caused several players on the defensive side to burst out laughing. He doesn't have the respect of his players, many of our position coaches are more suited and qualified to lead a team. He is leading warriors not high school freshmen, his game is all wrong for the guys he is leading.

It is public knowledge that Rick George was responsible for Leavitt and Chev hires and moving Adams to OL. MM is unable to make timely decisions and it shows with Coach Forman being retained for an extra year when it was well known that the players hated that dude.
I am excited for the team and all of the improvements Rick George made this year but don't have high expectations with MM running the ship into the ground.

I guess I have a lot more respect for Rick George than you do.

I don't think for a second all of that is true. Because if our AD thinks so little of our HC that he is micromanaging all aspects of the person's job performance and doesn't have the guts to fire him, then our AD is a horrible administrator. I have seen nothing to indicate that RG is a horrible administrator.

P.S. It is not RG who HCMM discusses all the football administration things with on a regular basis. That is Lance Carl. And, yes, MacIntyre & Carl discuss all of this stuff. But Carl does not dictate to MacIntyre who to hire & fire. Far from it. And in regard to Jim Leavitt, the preference from Carl & George would have been David Gibbs -- who just might be a disaster at TTU.

 

[DBT]

HCMM public persona is this nice guy who is working to turn this team around. He is the wrong coach for CU. He is a rambling drama queen and has no substance. He was unable to pull in a decent recruit until Leavitt and Chev arrived. I recently was told that he was the reason that Webb went running. Rick George needs to react quickly when the ship starts sinking. The high pitched lady-ish screaming on the field yesterday is not helping his cause. That over blown emotional outburst at the scrimmage caused several players on the defensive side to burst out laughing. He doesn't have the respect of his players, many of our position coaches are more suited and qualified to lead a team. He is leading warriors not high school freshmen, his game is all wrong for the guys he is leading.

It is public knowledge that Rick George was responsible for Leavitt and Chev hires and moving Adams to OL. MM is unable to make timely decisions and it shows with Coach Forman being retained for an extra year when it was well known that the players hated that dude.
I am excited for the team and all of the improvements Rick George made this year but don't have high expectations with MM running the ship into the ground.

You are obviously an insider who knows everything going on behind the scenes. Far be it for me to dispute anything you claim. But I could have sworn Leavitt and Mac had become friends when Leavitt and Mac were in the Bay Area at the same time and that Leavitt came here because of that relationship. I guess I was wrong since you are an insider who knows the true reason he came here.

 

[Idot Buff]

You are obviously an insider who knows everything going on behind the scenes. Far be it for me to dispute anything you claim. But I could have sworn Leavitt and Mac had become friends when Leavitt and Mac were in the Bay Area at the same time and that Leavitt came here because of that relationship. I guess I was wrong since you are an insider who knows the true reason he came here.

 

[badbone63]

I guess I have a lot more respect for Rick George than you do.

I don't think for a second all of that is true. Because if our AD thinks so little of our HC that he is micromanaging all aspects of the person's job performance and doesn't have the guts to fire him, then our AD is a horrible administrator. I have seen nothing to indicate that RG is a horrible administrator.

P.S. It is not RG who HCMM discusses all the football administration things with on a regular basis. That is Lance Carl. And, yes, MacIntyre & Carl discuss all of this stuff. But Carl does not dictate to MacIntyre who to hire & fire. Far from it. And in regard to Jim Leavitt, the preference from Carl & George would have been David Gibbs -- who just might be a disaster at TTU.

I am aware that Carl is the guy that signs HCMM's paycheck. I am also aware that Rick George is the guy responsible for getting CU out of the toilet. He will not be patient with indecisive situations. It is not micromanaging to go after much needed recruiting coaches. I didn't say that Rick George was putting in plays during the game, geez.

 

[SuperiorBuff]

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

I am aware that Carl is the guy that signs HCMM's paycheck. I am also aware that Rick George is the guy responsible for getting CU out of the toilet. He will not be patient with indecisive situations. It is not micromanaging to go after much needed recruiting coaches. I didn't say that Rick George was putting in plays during the game, geez.

You are a ****ing moron.

 

[badbone63]

You are a ****ing moron.

Cool

 

[Buffnik]

I am aware that Carl is the guy that signs HCMM's paycheck. I am also aware that Rick George is the guy responsible for getting CU out of the toilet. He will not be patient with indecisive situations. It is not micromanaging to go after much needed recruiting coaches. I didn't say that Rick George was putting in plays during the game, geez.

So if RG decides to fire HCMM after this year, would you expect RG to be picking and choosing the assistant coaches for the next HC?

It's just not the way things are done or the way things should be done. No HC wants to work under that situation and it also causes serious problems within the staff in terms of who their boss is, who to listen to.

If RG is doing that to HCMM, he is undermining the organization. If RG feels like he has to do that as a special circumstance because HCMM is incompetent, then he should have fired HCMM. The scenario you lay out, if it were true, would erode all confidence I have in RG outside his role as a fundraiser. I don't believe it.

What I do believe is that HCMM and LC meet every week, LC does make AD recommendations within that, HCMM ultimately makes the decisions, and the AD brings its resources to bear to support HCMM with the coaches he wants to consider. Within that, I'm sure that LC makes some recommendations on names and that HCMM does interview people from that list to see if they are a personality & philosophy fit. Chev may very well have been one of those guys. With Leavitt, we have a pre-existing relationship between him and HCMM along with some connections with a former player. I don't know who identified Tumpkin. Hagan probably had booster support and HCMM had worked with him for a few years. Adams to OL was likely something that was always part of a long-term plan. Would not surprise me at all if that plan got accelerated due to OL issues last season and HCMM/LC talking it through. With Drew Wilson, HCMM was frustrated with Foreman and gave him some ultimatums to fix certain things. It didn't work (and I'd say that HCMM was a year late pulling the trigger). Best I can figure is that HCMM learned of Wilson through his friend Randy Edsall, who had Wilson as his S&C guy when he'd been HC at Maryland and Connecticut (Edsall's son Corey is a GA for HCMM).

But I don't believe for a second that LC/RG are dictating the hiring, firing or re-assignment of assistant coaches. That would be horrible management and out of character.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

My favorite part is that all of it is "public knowledge".

 

[SINKRATZ]

This thread is getting a lot of action today - are we really freaked out about what we saw in a controlled scrimmage? I have my doubts about Mac, but I don't feel any more concerned today than I did before that scrimmage.

 

[Idot Buff]

This thread is getting a lot of action today - are we really freaked out about what we saw in a controlled scrimmage? I have my doubts about Mac, but I don't feel any more concerned today than I did before that scrimmage.

I do. If Sefo blows again this year, Mac is ****ed.

 

[MtnBuff]

HCMM public persona is this nice guy who is working to turn this team around. He is the wrong coach for CU. He is a rambling drama queen and has no substance. He was unable to pull in a decent recruit until Leavitt and Chev arrived. I recently was told that he was the reason that Webb went running. Rick George needs to react quickly when the ship starts sinking. The high pitched lady-ish screaming on the field yesterday is not helping his cause. That over blown emotional outburst at the scrimmage caused several players on the defensive side to burst out laughing. He doesn't have the respect of his players, many of our position coaches are more suited and qualified to lead a team. He is leading warriors not high school freshmen, his game is all wrong for the guys he is leading.

It is public knowledge that Rick George was responsible for Leavitt and Chev hires and moving Adams to OL. MM is unable to make timely decisions and it shows with Coach Forman being retained for an extra year when it was well known that the players hated that dude.
I am excited for the team and all of the improvements Rick George made this year but don't have high expectations with MM running the ship into the ground.

Good morning AZ,

No they aren't going to bring your buddy back so you can have SCOOP.

 

[SINKRATZ]

I do. If Sefo blows again this year, Mac is ****ed.

That was probably true before yesterday.

 

[Buffnik]

I don't think there's any argument on what HCMM and the team needs from Sefo. The team is much improved, but it's not good enough to win if it doesn't get winning QB play. Is this a point of debate among fans?

 

[Idot Buff]

That was probably true before yesterday.

Agree. My point was that Sefo apparently looked like horse **** yesterday. All of this talk about how he played injured most of last year, and how he is now fully recovered and ready to get back to the way he played in 2014 may be bull ****.

 

[Idot Buff]

I don't think there's any argument on what HCMM and the team needs from Sefo. The team is much improved, but it's not good enough to win if it doesn't get winning QB play. Is this a point of debate among fans?

Not at all.

 

[Big Jim]

I don't think there's any argument on what HCMM and the team needs from Sefo. The team is much improved, but it's not good enough to win if it doesn't get winning QB play. Is this a point of debate among fans?

Much improved from when? Last year?

 

[lawdogg]

Agree. My point was that Sefo apparently looked like horse **** yesterday. All of this talk about how he played injured most of last year, and how he is now fully recovered and ready to get back to the way he played in 2014 may be bull ****.

Really? I'd heard that Sefo was not as sharp yesterday as he has been throughout camp, but I hadn't heard that he looked like horse ****. That is troubling.

 

[DBT]

I'm getting sucked into defending Mac and that's the last thing I want to do. He needs to produce results or we need to make a change. But it pisses me off when posters pull things out of their asses just for the sake of supporting their disdain for the guy.

 

[badbone63]

Good morning AZ,

No they aren't going to bring your buddy back so you can have SCOOP.

Not AZ, don't need to scoop anything except the BS from the frat boys on this forum. The truth seems to set them scrabbling for their little bits of knowledge and name drops. It amuses.

 

[Buffnik]

Much improved from when? Last year?

Yes. And from every season since 2010. I just don't know if that's good enough to make a bowl. I hope so. I think so if we get winning QB play.

 

[MtnBuff]

You are a ****ing moron.

You put it more gently than he deserves.

Before we start appointing Webb as the missing savior we need to back up the bus a bit.

I would have loved to have had him here competing for the job. He is being looked at as having NFL potential and was reasonably successful before transferring.

He also got beat out for the starting job on a team that isn't that great a team. Getting beat out at TTU isn't that same as getting beat out at USC or some other school with a line of 4* and 5* QB recruits. Mahomes is good and talented but isn't without flaws. Last year TTU ended up 7-6.

M2 would have given a bad message to the team if he had simply handed the job the Webb. Webb very well might have won it anyways but giving guys a starting spot without having to compete for it is a ticket to having your team question the fairness and sincerity of the coach. That is especially true when the guy you sit happens to be a team leader who has put in the work since he has been here to deserve at least a fair shot.

If Montez continues to show well and does what is required and Sefo struggles then we could see a change at the position. That change though would be merit based which the team would not only accept but support.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

Not AZ, don't need to scoop anything except the BS from the frat boys on this forum. The truth seems to set them scrabbling for their little bits of knowledge and name drops. It amuses.

Man, you sure love to throw words and phrases around like "truth", "public knowledge", and "fact" when talking about things you definitely don't know to be any of those.

 

[badbone63]

Man, you sure love to throw words and phrases around like "truth", "public knowledge", and "fact" when talking about things you definitely don't know to be any of those.

Oh really, you have no idea of what knowledge I have. So be careful when you call someone a ****moron.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

Oh really, you have no idea of what knowledge I have. So be careful when you call someone a ****moron.

I called you a ****ing moron, not a ****moron. And you laid your bull**** knowledge out in this thread and nobody is buying it.

 

[Big Jim]

Yes. And from every season since 2010. I just don't know if that's good enough to make a bowl. I hope so. I think so if we get winning QB play.

I get the "every year since 2010" part. I am focused on two things: Is CU better than last season and are each of the teams CU plays better than last season. I think CU is better this season than last season on the DL. QB, RB, TE, OL, LB and ST look marginally better if only because of one more year of experience with the same players. DB and WR look to have suffered a significant losses of the best player at each of the CB and WR positions. So is CU better than last year, probably a little bit at least. Is CU's opponents better than last season? I don't know yet. Clearly last season was an OOC schedule that could have seen CU undefeated while this years schedule will almost certainly not.

 

[BuffLuke80]

Lord have mercy, think everybody is ready for kickoff lol.

 

[Idot Buff]

I'm getting sucked into defending Mac and that's the last thing I want to do. He needs to produce results or we need to make a change. But it pisses me off when posters pull things out of their asses just for the sake of supporting their disdain for the guy.

I love HCMM and wish him nothing but the best. But he must win now, or GTFO.

 

[Swish]

Not AZ, don't need to scoop anything except the BS from the frat boys on this forum. The truth seems to set them scrabbling for their little bits of knowledge and name drops. It amuses.

Rampant negativity is really not all that amusing. It is actually getting really old.