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Offense and WR's: Overrated?
- Thread starter wyomingBUFF
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I thought our receivers did work last year. Michigan has great DB talent and they still showed they could perform. If I am being honest though that is not the what I think will make this offense take a step forward though, I think it's about the run game and adding Montez to the mix so we can actually run the read option. I seriously want to see some two back shotgun sets with bish and Lindsay running a power off tackle and Montez having the option to keep if the defense collapses.
Obviously lindgren has had his issues with sticking to the run game before but he did take a step forward in that regard last season and hopefully it continues with the confidence in the line.
Obviously lindgren has had his issues with sticking to the run game before but he did take a step forward in that regard last season and hopefully it continues with the confidence in the line.
Heh. I think we are in the minority, but I agree. Zone read could be lethal this season.
Bufffan68
Club Member
I agree. Strategically used, zone read could be deadly!
The Ogre
Well-Known Member
Fields gets most of the hype, but I'm not sure he's the second or even third best receiver on the team. I don't really have a rooting interest in who's best among them, as long as somebody gets open every play and El Passador finds the very best one - for that snap.
I don't think they are overrated, but playing in the PAC may cause some to over look them a bit. WhiIe I think they help a sophomore Montez shine, other QB's in the PAC will make their receiving corps look better than they are. As long as we get some W's, I don't much care.
El Passador? Now we have another terrible nickname that's never going to catch on to go along with Montezuma! Allsome!
Damnit man, quit bringing that up lol.
I don't see a WR drafted from this group.
The Ogre
Well-Known Member
So do I. Do you have a favorite child?
I do, of course, I don't have much to choose from lol.
Bufffan68
Club Member
Of the children I know about, yes.
lvbuff
Well-Known Member
F8uck you
Stop.
lvbuff
Well-Known Member
Just don't try to run around the filters.
B_Walk
Cursed
You don't think Fields will be drafted? That's a pretty radical assertion
I think a TE emerging could really take the offense from good to really good level. Not sure we have one on the roster, though. Hopefully Poplawski comes in ready to play or Keeney finally turns the light on.
JOEinDenver
National Championship or Bust
Wins
Is it radical? I honestly didn't think this was the consensus of opinion.
He's not physical at all and he disappears against the better teams (because he's not physical enough). He's good, but he's not NFL good (at least thus far).
Possible. Productivity doesn't equal getting drafted. We saw that with Nelson Spruce (lack of straight line speed) and with Gabe Marks (size, physicality). I think, though, that Fields falls within the NFL range for physical traits while also having the productivity/film to go with it. He's not a freak like a 6'4" receiver clocking a sub 4.4 would be, though, so he's not a 1st round guy. That means somewhere from the 2nd round to priority UFA depending on how he tests, his health, and what sort of senior year he has.
Don't hold your breath. I can't understand why, but the TE position is simply a lost concept in this O.
I think we worry way too much about how much the TE is used in the passing game. Anyone who has played fantasy football knows how few teams have TEs who are difference makers.
I'm torn. It hard to find good college TEs, so why have an offense that relies on them. On the other hand, a TE can be a deadly weapon against most college defenses, so shouldn't CU try to find and use them.
We agree. And there's room in this offense's design to feature a TE if we have a guy who justifies that. Lindgren's pretty damn good at designing & modifying the playbook to fit the personnel strengths.
DiggerBuffs
Well-Known Member
Not every game are you going to put up 35-45 points when you are playing a Pac 12 that has became better defensively but Ill go through your excercise:
Stanford: Road game and the offense left at least 9 points on the field with numerous missed FGs and offense not being able to punch it in. Sefo looked awful with less than a 50% completion rate. Run to Pass Ratio was nearly 2:1.
UCLA: The most undisciplined team CU has had since Embree and Hawkins years that night. Sefo again had no rhythm. It was an ugly, grind out game.
Arizona: To do THAT on the road is impressive. Especially after what they had done. Fields whooped their ass along with LINDSAY!
WSU: Offense was balanced and got them back in the game. Was easily Sefo's best game where he gutted out a tough win. I also think that was the last time he had any health. He was not the same after that game.
Utah: It was all on the line. 27 points vs a really solid Utah team with NFL players in secondary and up front.
Washington and Okie State: Sefo was hurt. Gutty dude but he should have turned the keys over to the truck at half of the Washington game. He had nothing left. Okie State he just still didn't seem right and the team didn't have that same gusto with their secondary unable to play. The whole team was down.
So why the WR hope and hype? This WR corp is unreal talented and has already shown that any of the Top 3 guys from last year can go for a 100. Add Winfree to the mix that was supposed to take Bobo out of playing time and catches from Fields and Ross last year and you see why. Oh, add KD Nixon's speed, Ento would have started for any Buffs team pre-2012 and you'll see why the hope and hype.
And as for the offense. I believe most people love Sefo but realize the ceiling on Montez is scary good. When he started, he looked dangerous. Against Washington he looked confident despite the two quick series but got the hook. OSU as I said, his teammates did him no favors and he looked fired up and pissed. Oh and I forgot to highlight, LINDSAY! Having him as a threat every play opens up this offense. This offense should be better this year because consistency should come with Lindsay and the QB dive won't be such a crutch because Montez is a more talented player than Sefo.
Stanford: Road game and the offense left at least 9 points on the field with numerous missed FGs and offense not being able to punch it in. Sefo looked awful with less than a 50% completion rate. Run to Pass Ratio was nearly 2:1.
UCLA: The most undisciplined team CU has had since Embree and Hawkins years that night. Sefo again had no rhythm. It was an ugly, grind out game.
Arizona: To do THAT on the road is impressive. Especially after what they had done. Fields whooped their ass along with LINDSAY!
WSU: Offense was balanced and got them back in the game. Was easily Sefo's best game where he gutted out a tough win. I also think that was the last time he had any health. He was not the same after that game.
Utah: It was all on the line. 27 points vs a really solid Utah team with NFL players in secondary and up front.
Washington and Okie State: Sefo was hurt. Gutty dude but he should have turned the keys over to the truck at half of the Washington game. He had nothing left. Okie State he just still didn't seem right and the team didn't have that same gusto with their secondary unable to play. The whole team was down.
So why the WR hope and hype? This WR corp is unreal talented and has already shown that any of the Top 3 guys from last year can go for a 100. Add Winfree to the mix that was supposed to take Bobo out of playing time and catches from Fields and Ross last year and you see why. Oh, add KD Nixon's speed, Ento would have started for any Buffs team pre-2012 and you'll see why the hope and hype.
And as for the offense. I believe most people love Sefo but realize the ceiling on Montez is scary good. When he started, he looked dangerous. Against Washington he looked confident despite the two quick series but got the hook. OSU as I said, his teammates did him no favors and he looked fired up and pissed. Oh and I forgot to highlight, LINDSAY! Having him as a threat every play opens up this offense. This offense should be better this year because consistency should come with Lindsay and the QB dive won't be such a crutch because Montez is a more talented player than Sefo.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
Maybe. Having a least the threat of production out of the TE just adds another thing for opposing defenses to worry about. Even us amateurs know what will happen when Eddy Lopez lines up as a TE.