Doesn't look like it is negatively impacting our recruits based on initial tweets.
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Official 2016 All-in-One Assistant Coaches Compendium Thread - hagan in, bernardi to te, adams ol -
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Doesn't look like it is negatively impacting our recruits based on initial tweets.
CU Football Axiom #1:
Thou shall not conduct a full national search for a coach.
CU Football Axiom #2:
Before examining any other options, thou shall hire a former player or coach.
CU Football Axiom #3:
Somehow, Chuck Neinas must be involved.
Thus ends the Lesson.
i kid. i kid.
Thou shall not conduct a full national search for a coach.
CU Football Axiom #2:
Before examining any other options, thou shall hire a former player or coach.
CU Football Axiom #3:
Somehow, Chuck Neinas must be involved.
Thus ends the Lesson.
i kid. i kid.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Give chiaverini the same titles walters had. If you want to add St coordinator, go for it. No OC title, though. Here's a name for that-Josh Heupel. One more question with the OC search.....Liz Kritza was let go today. Was she on a multi year deal, and if she was, is giving that contract to a new offensive coordinator possible?
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
We tried this. It was called the Embree era.
DiggerBuffs
Well-Known Member
Book it Jedd Fisch is coming back to CO!
Do you think that the position coaches were the problem in the Embree era?
I never even knew about darrin until he came in and swooped tony brown from us. He recruits so cal so that would be good for us too.
Well this now means the Recruiting Coordinator title is out there as a carrot for any of the position coaches we're hopefully still looking to replace, so that's a positive if you're looking at trying to add better recruiters to the staff, though I also wouldn't be surprised if they gave the title to Tumpkin.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
No, but the recruiting was bad all around while they were here too. Let me ask you this, nik-Lets say for a minute Stewart didn't play at CU, but had the exact same resume everywhere else. Would you hire him? I'd shop around before I would. If Kordell is the best guy for the job, he should get it. He should not get it because he played here and has connections in Louisiana. That resume looks a lot to me like the one Kanavis had three years ago.
I don't know. WR coach is often a position you hire for to break someone in for a first job (RB coach is the other one). It's the staff hire I'm least concerned about this offseason. Just get a recruiter who will get his guys playing loose and playing hard.
Big Jim
WTF?
DavisBuff
Club Member
You wouldn't offer the job to Kordell if he wasn't a former Buff; but, that doesn't make it a mistake if do offer him the job mainly because he is a former Buff. If he can recruit it would be a good hire. Most of our best recruiters were former Buffs. They have a insight they can share with kids coming from out of state.
Embree, Bieniemy, Hagan, Cabral were great position coaches mainly because they brought in talent. If Kordell could do that sign him up. But I'd move him to RB coach so we can make room for Chivarini.
Until proven otherwise, Walters still "works" for CU. Except now UCF pays him, we don't have to pay for plane flights, and he still recruits Florida for us.
Recruits know to keep it on the hush, as evidenced by Huntley's tweet last night that you don't go for a coach and he's still solid for CU.
Recruits know to keep it on the hush, as evidenced by Huntley's tweet last night that you don't go for a coach and he's still solid for CU.
I thought this post must be missing the sarcasm font, then I saw this: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14279278/10-names-next-line-nfl-head-coaches-nfl. Happy that EB was able to rise so quickly after the debacle here.
I think the last two lines are out of order.
Listen, we have a guy right here, locally, who is a CU grad with head coaching experience. He played in the NFL. He's won state titles at multiple high schools. I think it's about time we offer Dave Logan a job. And if we have to hire anybody to fix, like plumbing, or air conditioners or something, he can recommend the best companies in town.
Damnit DBT. We were doing so well this offseason...
I would take Dave Logan in a second as a position coach, especially with the recruiting struggles in state and the huge in state class coming next year. I thought people were okay with that they just hated the head coach conversation with him. Give him the recruiting coordinator position too, he is already an amazing recruiter at creek/mullen.
She was not on a multi-year deal.
Colobuffs21
Club Member
any discussion of Leavitt reuniting w/ Harbaugh now that Durkin took the Maryland HC job?
FlatironsBuff
Well-Known Member
DBT is like that guy at the office that doesn't really get jokes, but the one he does get will be repeated often, for eternity. Or at least, for what FEELS like eternity.
Small threadjack here, apologies...
I don't remember the exact specifics, but we all know that the number of multi-year contracts is very limited (next year is an election year - if you happen to talk to a candidate for state legislator, you should bring this up - it's a stupid rule and as a whole it probably harms more than helps all of the universities in the state). CU uses theirs on:
Outside of football, how do you think it harms the school's ability to hire quality head coaches? What happens when Wetmore retires? What if Nike U decides to give him whatever absurd amount he would demand to hire him? What if we ever decide to get a baseball team? What if Kritza's replacement turns out to be the Pat Summitt of women's college volleyball, and Stanford comes calling?
On the academic side (including the CU Health Center research doctors), in addition to the Nobel prize winners, there are probably quite a few other prize winning professors that it would be a good idea to reward with multi-year contracts. It would definitely help to be able to hire them in the future as well.
A hard limit on the number of multi-year contracts for the state universities is just stupid. It's one of the absolute dumbest ideas the politicians in Denver ever came up with. Create a legal set of standards that need to be met in order to justify a multi-year contract - that'd be fine, but a hard number limit is full on retard.
Seriously, if you talk to a state politician this election year, you really should bring this up. It would be a good thing to get fixed (and it just might help the football team win someday).
I don't remember the exact specifics, but we all know that the number of multi-year contracts is very limited (next year is an election year - if you happen to talk to a candidate for state legislator, you should bring this up - it's a stupid rule and as a whole it probably harms more than helps all of the universities in the state). CU uses theirs on:
- The President
- Some of the Nobel-prize winning professors
- I think some of the Chancellors, but I'm not sure
- Athletics
- The AD
- The Men's and Women's head Basketball Coaches
- The head Football Coach
- One of the Football Coordinators
Outside of football, how do you think it harms the school's ability to hire quality head coaches? What happens when Wetmore retires? What if Nike U decides to give him whatever absurd amount he would demand to hire him? What if we ever decide to get a baseball team? What if Kritza's replacement turns out to be the Pat Summitt of women's college volleyball, and Stanford comes calling?
On the academic side (including the CU Health Center research doctors), in addition to the Nobel prize winners, there are probably quite a few other prize winning professors that it would be a good idea to reward with multi-year contracts. It would definitely help to be able to hire them in the future as well.
A hard limit on the number of multi-year contracts for the state universities is just stupid. It's one of the absolute dumbest ideas the politicians in Denver ever came up with. Create a legal set of standards that need to be met in order to justify a multi-year contract - that'd be fine, but a hard number limit is full on retard.
Seriously, if you talk to a state politician this election year, you really should bring this up. It would be a good thing to get fixed (and it just might help the football team win someday).
UBL!
Walters has been an interesting case this year he hasn't hit the headlines recruiting for us the way he has in the past, not sure if that is a reflection of reality or just lax reporting.
On the kids from the south east the three Florida kids have been and were most heavily recruited by Tumpkin/Leavitt. The two Georgia players list Charles Clark as their lead recruiter on rivals although I haven't followed that as closely so I am taking Adam's word for it there. So theoretically this move should have no effects on the 4 from the southeast. Taking a quick look at the whole class Walters is listed as the lead recruiter only for Patrick Taylor out of Houston.
is the prez on one? i didnt think he took a salary from CU