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Official 2021 Bowl Games Thread
- Thread starter Duff Man
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Can’t Decide Which Bowl Games To Watch? We’ve Got A Metric For That.
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Glad you put this up Duff.
I was going to do one in the spirit of the other games threads but am still in a hospital bed.
Fitting that the MAC and the Sun Belt are in the early games since they gave us the early week games all year.
Going to Orlando and the Bahamas is a nice reward for a good season. Saturday UTEP gets to go to Albuquerque, that's got to have them excited.
Not as bad though as going to Boise in December or the games in the baseball stadiums in NY and Boston.
I was going to do one in the spirit of the other games threads but am still in a hospital bed.
Fitting that the MAC and the Sun Belt are in the early games since they gave us the early week games all year.
Going to Orlando and the Bahamas is a nice reward for a good season. Saturday UTEP gets to go to Albuquerque, that's got to have them excited.
Not as bad though as going to Boise in December or the games in the baseball stadiums in NY and Boston.
Gotta wonder why they haven't tried to put a bowl game in Mile High or Coors Field yet.
Especially now that we're apparently going to be Phoenix North in the winter.
They always talk about the weather but we know that isn't a barrier.
If a local company stepped up with a big dollar sponsorship Colorado would have a bowl game, all about the money.
If Boise can have a bowl game, Denver can.
BuffBronco
Well-Known Member
Coming in 2022
The Casa Bonita Bowl
The Casa Bonita Bowl
I’d go.
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
That's where I go after eating there or Black Bart's cave if I can't make it.
my guess is that while CO may be an attractive destination during bowl week for some people who like skiing and riding, that's not enough to overcome the apathy Coloradans have for college sports.
Have you watched 80% of bowl games and seen how awful the attendance is? I think a Bowl game at Folsom would be a huge hit and destination spot. Even a game in Denver would do well, IMO.
Have you seen the "crowds" at some of these bowl games, some of them wouldn't fill a good high school stadium.
The host city would love to get teams that travel well and spend a bunch of money but the sponsor money is the biggest factor.
It is a concern. I have a family member on a bowl committee. They do look at how many people will be drawn for hotel rooms, food and drink sales, ticket sales etc. Having said that, the bulk of the money comes from TV rights.
of course -- the poor attendance at non-CFP,LLC bowl games is obvious to me and well known generally.
that was the predicate for my comment. I'm struggling to believe that any stakeholders are interested in another bowl with empty stands.
I haven't seen any reason to believe that a bowl in Boulder or Denver would be well attended. I'd like to believe differently -- there's a 99% chance that I'd attend a local bowl if I was in town that day, regardless of the two teams playing.
Denver is a great sports town, in general. I think there are a lot of people who would jump at the opportunity of seeing a decent CFB bowl game, especially if the setting was Boulder. I also think you underestimate the attractiveness of Boulder/Colorado to fans of various teams.
I don't think it could be a Bahamas Bowl caliber matchup and do well, but an LA Bowl (Utah State vs Oregon State), Liberty Bowl (Miss State vs Texas Tech), Guaranteed Rate Bowl (WVU vs Minnesota) or Duke's Mayo Bowl (UNC vs South Carolina) caliber matchup would be an attractive game, IMO
ok. I'm not seeing it, but I hope a bowl comes here and I'm shown to be wrong.
I can see some local entity being willing to put up the sponsorship money to get the national publicity that goes with being the title sponsor of one of these games.
Even in winter Colorado is a desirable travel destination so it may draw better with the participating teams fans than a lot of other destinations. Places like Mobile AL and Frisco TX are not high on many peoples bucket list destinations in winter.
Colorado also has enough migrants here from all over the country that I could see some local interest generated by a lot of schools, not a huge amount but add a few thousand fans to the schools travelling fans plus some who would go just to go or because they get free seats from sponsors etc. you could end up with a crowd comparable to most lower tier bowls.
You, yourself, just said you would attend a local bowl game. Why don't you think other people would?
because I'm a college sports fan. most Coloradans aren't, as evidenced by attendance at the three D1 schools in-state.
@MtnBuff , I didn't look up, but regarding your most recent comment ITT on "even in winter", I perceive that more people visit Colorado for tourism in the winter than any other season.
I think you conflate college sports fan with Colorado college sports fans. This state is over 50% transplant, a lot of whom are from the midwest. Also, as it's been stated, the goal of bowl games isn't to fill the stadium.
Flat Irons Bowl
Again, that perception is wrong
. Tourism in Colorado is impressively flat by season (although different locales have meaningful differences between summer and winter, the state as a whole is surprisingly even across the year with the only seasonal dip in Apr-May):
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I get that you didn't literally mean these matchups above but a matchup of that caliber, but I still think a Denver/Boulder bowl would need a regional team to help the draw. For example some lower-tier bowls which will draw fairly well due to having regional teams:
New Orleans Bowl - Louisiana vs. Marshall
Birmingham Bowl - Auburn vs. Houston
Gasparilla Bowl - UCF vs. Florida (I heard this was already a sellout but not sure if that's true)
Liberty Bowl - TT vs. Miss. State (clanga clanga clanga!)
Duke's Mayo Bowl (Charlotte) - UNC vs. South Carolina
Music City Bowl (Nashville) - Tennessee vs. Purdue
A Denver area bowl would likely need a regional team (and regional is relative in the western part of the country) like Wyoming, AF, BYU, Utah, CU/CSU of course, or KSU to help out with attendance. I don't think a matchup albeit decent ones like Minnesota-WV or a NC State-UCLA type matchup would cut it.
Any old Big 8 school would draw, as would any TX school.