publicbieniemy
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Sorry, misinterpretation on my part. I get a corporate firewall block and your orig msg showed the same thing. Thought we worked at the same company but I'm sure it's just mine blocking on each post.
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Official 2025 Fall Camp Thread
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Here's my breakdown of why I'm concerned when comparing this year to last:
1. CB1: DJ is a great CB2, especially in man coverage, but I'm not sold on him as a lockdown CB1. I see him as a slight downgrade from TH12.
2. Positional Downgrades: Based on limited tape from online videos, the rotation seems to be shaping up with RJ and Teon getting significant snaps. This creates a shuffle (TH12 -> DJ, DJ -> RJ, Colton -> Teon) where I believe we've gotten weaker at each spot. (I have no concerns about Preston, however—he's great).
3. Scheme Fit: If they stick with a man-heavy scheme, this secondary may not be as lockdown as last year's unit was.
To be clear, I'm not saying they will be bad, just that there are far more question marks this season.
Thanks. Just curious about your rationale.
First, anyone, and I mean, ANYONE, that replaces TH12 is a downgrade. Dude was (and is) special.
I expect we’ll see a lot more zone this year. Livingston is a dern good DC and is going to scheme to the strengths. I also think our DL is going to make our CBs look better by setting up camp in the offensive backfield on passing downs this year.
Right. After last year, Prime’s focus for LB was to get speed into that room.
I assume that’s what we’ve done, though I haven’t really been following that progress.
Just keep working, proud of you. Wish I wasn't somebody that had to deal with it, but I have. Sometimes, it ended up ok. Other times, it didn't.
Hughes and French are significantly more athletic than Bentley and NHG. Neither are as big as those two so we’ll see how they do against more physical, run oriented teams, but hopefully our bigger, more physical DL can help keep them clean.
Regardless, they are both like 225-230 lbs so it’s not like they are significantly undersized.
Kylan Salter is also part of that group and he is the fastest of the group and is 230 lbs. He’s just pretty raw I think.
Both French and Hughes can fly.
Superman is a downgrade.
I had some thoughts on the first week of practice. Crisler and Hill at guard are really going to help the team - we need them to stay healthy.
https://buffsblog.com/fall-camp-week-1-intel-omarrions-breakout-byrons-arrival-and-a-new-offensive-scheme/
https://buffsblog.com/fall-camp-week-1-intel-omarrions-breakout-byrons-arrival-and-a-new-offensive-scheme/
Heads up. Looks like the link is broken. Maybe it’s just me?
Link does not work for me.
JMBuffs
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Hopefully the big boys in front of the LBs should keep the Oline off of them.
As mentioned, anyone’s a downgrade from Hunter. But your words were “slight downgrade” and that somehow equates to not being a CB1? Imo DJ will be one of the first 3 CBs drafted when he goes
FWIW, various nfl draft sites I’ve seen recently have DJ as a top 3-4 CB in next years draft. Obviously that’s highly fluid, but he is clearly viewed as a top (draft eligible) CB in the country.
Broncos lock
McKinney and Hodge would start on any team in the conference. The fact that the Defensive staff thought enough of Johnson to move him from Safety to CB1 says a lot. He's been ballin' too. I have zero worry about our DBs this year.
There is some good **** in here. 3 and 10 look good (especially 3) and the RBs look really good. Like what I’m seeing. Drinking the kool aid. We gonna win!
Livingston does not like how heavy of Man we played last year, and if everyone remembers, he actually yelled at Prime during that unfortunate KSU ending loss. I thought he said something like "That is what you get playing man"
Bottom line is that nobody plays that much man to man
1) Q Wiggins is a practice player only until I see otherwise
2) It's incredible how well the zone read works when you have a QB that will actually pull it
3) Told you all Ty Davis was a BALLER
4) SOOOO much 11 personnel
5) Is it wrong the Q Counter at 15:45 gave me a chubby?
I can understand it some when we had the GOAT playing in the secondary.
I agree that zone seems like it would make more sense at least until/unless Livingston feels comfortable with man coverage scenarios.
This was exactly what I was thinking. I remember us getting schemed and motioned into ridiculously out-of position scenarios because of how locked on in man we were in the secondary.
As I recall, Livingston adjusted as the season wore on and that became less glaring.
It was a rub and a challenge for him and Prime though. Prime wants to create NFL Corners, and he is doing that, but using live bullets to always test the man to man skills can lose you games, and we need to win, and trust what Coach Rob has in mind. I also think that Travis spoiled Coach Prime because he is the only pure reminder of himself, but we have very good corners that just do not have to be put in that much man to man anymore, especially with all those schemes you mention that just ate us up, even NDSU had our number
rosstr
Your Resident “POS Poster”
They asked for money. They got more money than most people make in their entire lives. Welcome to the real world. If you suck, I’ve no problem whatsoever saying that.
Within reason. I agree with treating them like professionals instead of like kids now. But won't be tolerating attacks that go beyond their play to become personal. I also don't have a lot of tolerance for piling on or for anyone who isn't the least bit supportive. In other words, I think we can say that someone has been an absolute liability in pass protection and sucks at his job. But I don't want name calling or making fun of his mother.
A few guys have made that kind of money. Most are getting mid to upper 5 figures before taxes, or nothing at all. Getting paid means they are technically professionals, but let’s not confuse the Travis Hunters, Shedeur Sanders, Juju Lewis and Jordan Seatons of the world with guys like Dallan Hayden, Sincere Brown, RJ Johnson, Micah Welch, and most of the rest of the roster.
The problem I have with your assertion is that you presume and present an objective understanding of “suck,” when all you are really doing is expressing your subjective opinion, no doubt flavored with a heaping helping of envy.
For instance, it’s my opinion that your appreciation of college football “sucks.” Whether that is ontologically true or not, I guess we’ll never know.
1. FAFO- be cautious.
2. Most of them do not in fact make more money than most people in their entire lives.
3. Part of what makes college football different is loyalty and support of young people while they are growing. that part has not changed at all.
4. Don't be jealous that a handful of these guys make top dollar. It isn't their fault you do not do as well.
sorry guys. This link should work. https://buffsblog.com/fall-camp-wee...ut-byrons-arrival-and-a-new-offensive-scheme/