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Official ****braska Hate Thread

MtnBuff said:
High school players won't worry about it, Prime and his staff are being honest. This is a rebuild.

What the HS players will see is other players flocking to Boulder both out of HS and transfers who are national level players, who have been recruited by top 10-15 level programs.

Fairly soon they are also going to be seeing a lot of CU in the NFL draft, the thing this level of player is looking for.

I know that the transfer portal is a sore spot for Nebraska, mainly because almost all of your top recruits end up in it. There won't be 70 new players on the roster next season, this season was a program re-set, something Nebraska needs badly but won't admit to as long as they can live in the past.

Meanwhile CU will continue to be a net winner in the portal. Prime is building a program kids can believe in.
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Time will tell which method for rebuilding a program. CU's or Nebraska's.
 
MtnBuff said:
Does it matter who the coach is in Lincoln.

The last time your program mattered the players of today weren't born yet. They might as well go to Army or Yale who won national championships before they were born as well.

You have a rabid fanbase but so do a bunch of your conference mates and they put as many or more resources into their programs as Nebraska can. When conference opponents are beating you by 4 TDs at half time, when you are losing each year to the middle of the conference and even losing games to the bottom feeders none of that tradition crap matters. Osborne and Devaney are long gone.

Frost is a jerk but he proved he can coach before he got to Nebraska. There is a reason so many top coaching candidates have been turning down jobs in Lincoln over the past decade plus and it isn't because the waitresses are ugly (Frost found some that weren't.) It is because the Golden era is gone and reality has set in.

Kids from California, Texas, Florida, etc. don't dream of playing in the frozen wasteland that is Nebraska. You might get some if the bag is big enough but you won't get enough and you won't keep enough. That isn't a coaching issue, it's a program issue.
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I actually expect Rhule to do well over time. Not 90s levels, but getting the Nubs back to what wasn't good enough under Pelini. That's probably much more acceptable to their fans than it was before.
 
MtnBuff said:
Does it matter who the coach is in Lincoln.

The last time your program mattered the players of today weren't born yet. They might as well go to Army or Yale who won national championships before they were born as well.

You have a rabid fanbase but so do a bunch of your conference mates and they put as many or more resources into their programs as Nebraska can. When conference opponents are beating you by 4 TDs at half time, when you are losing each year to the middle of the conference and even losing games to the bottom feeders none of that tradition crap matters. Osborne and Devaney are long gone.

Frost is a jerk but he proved he can coach before he got to Nebraska. There is a reason so many top coaching candidates have been turning down jobs in Lincoln over the past decade plus and it isn't because the waitresses are ugly (Frost found some that weren't.) It is because the Golden era is gone and reality has set in.

Kids from California, Texas, Florida, etc. don't dream of playing in the frozen wasteland that is Nebraska. You might get some if the bag is big enough but you won't get enough and you won't keep enough. That isn't a coaching issue, it's a program issue.
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CU hasn't had a good program in 20 years either.

The fan base hasn't been rabid. I'd call it bandwagon at best.

Nebraska fans are no longer living in the past. Those old farts are passing on.

Seems I remember CU getting bitch slapped by the PAC12 teams regularly.

Don't underestimate the ability of a Nebraska coach to recruit to the program from just about anywhere across the country.
 
Buffnik said:
I actually expect Rhule to do well over time. Not 90s levels, but getting the Nubs back to what wasn't good enough under Pelini. That's probably much more acceptable to their fans than it was before.
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Short term getting to some minor bowls will make them happy but I don't see them accepting it long term. They are too bought into the program and it is far to big a part of their self-image.

Their problem is that as long as they are in with programs like Michigan, tOSU, PSU, even Wisconsin and Michigan State they aren't going to come out on top.
 
BuffSurveyor said:
caususly optimistic
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BuffSurveyor said:
CU hasn't had a good program in 20 years either.

The fan base hasn't been rabid. I'd call it bandwagon at best.

Nebraska fans are no longer living in the past. Those old farts are passing on.

Seems I remember CU getting bitch slapped by the PAC12 teams regularly.

Don't underestimate the ability of a Nebraska coach to recruit to the program from just about anywhere across the country.
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CU hasn't had an administration that cared about winning over that period, it does now.

No, CU Football isn't the only thing worth caring about in the state, but it will support a winner.

The old farts are passing on and the younger ones are worse, just look at all the N garbage on clothing, cars, etc in Nebraska and everywhere else they move to and contaminate.

Again yes, but we didn't try to pretend like we were one coach or a couple players away from respectability.

Illustration that you are wrong on your third point. When you are recruiting nationally you are mostly taking scraps. The top players don't care about Nebraska and have little to no interest in going there. Most of the decent ones you get leave. Colorado is recruiting nationally right now not because it is Colorado but because Coach Prime is doing it. Win a bunch of games over the next couple years while sending a bunch of guys to the league and Colorado itself again becomes a destination.
 
BuffSurveyor said:
Sure it will. He made a "huge" gamble with the transfer portal. CU's 2024 class has 8 committed high-schoolers, with about 75% of the overall top recruits in the class of 2024 already committed to a school. It's going to be challenging to continue to fill CU's class with the highly rated players he wants. Therefore he's probably going to have to resort to the portal to an extreme again. That might raise the eyebrows of high-school players. So if his team falters in the first few games the going will be tougher in the long run. The 2024 class will pull back and potential transfers will react with caution. Then there's concern for his current health issues compounding things with potential new recruits (portal or otherwise). I for one, hope for the best for CU and its coach (except for the Nebraska games).
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Please explain what the “huge” gamble was
 
4BienemyTDs said:
Nebraska is in rebuild mode?
More like slow build
He said he was surprised at the amount of talent there, so he is gonna file the edges and maybe get to 6 wins tops over the next 2-3 years. Recruiting to Nebraska is 99% donor bags, which may or may not work.
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Does rebuilding in Nebraska mean replacing the curbs and gutters in the trailer park?
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
You explained why you think the first 3-4 games will determine how his career at CU will go, but I’m asking what the gamble was
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The gamble is whether or not the huge reliance on the portal and the purge of a large number of players with an untested coach at this level will work out. Then there is the handicap due to CP's health issues this spring and summer. That alone is at least going to cause some concern and affect the odds. Hope it works out for the best.
 
BuffSurveyor said:
The gamble is whether or not the huge reliance on the portal and the purge of a large number of players with an untested coach at this level will work out. Then there is the handicap due to CP's health issues this spring and summer. That alone is at least going to cause some concern and affect the odds. Hope it works out for the best.
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That's not a gamble, unless you think its risky keeping FCS level players? There's a sizeable contingent of players who left who are still in the portal because nobody wants them, another large group went to the FCS, some went to the G5, and a handful, around 7 or 8 landed at P5 schools.
 
BuffSurveyor said:
The gamble is whether or not the huge reliance on the portal and the purge of a large number of players with an untested coach at this level will work out. Then there is the handicap due to CP's health issues this spring and summer. That alone is at least going to cause some concern and affect the odds. Hope it works out for the best.
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Dude. CU was 1-11 last year. There is no gamble in replacing 80% of that roster, whether it’s from the portal or not.

Please elaborate on the handicap due to CP’s health issues.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Dude. CU was 1-11 last year. There is no gamble in replacing 80% of that roster, whether it’s from the portal or not.

Please elaborate on the handicap due to CP’s health issues.
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The real “risk”, was continuing to do things the same way we have for the last 20 years and expecting a different result. Given where we were, I see no risk in hiring CP and cleaning house.
 
BuffSurveyor said:
The gamble is whether or not the huge reliance on the portal and the purge of a large number of players with an untested coach at this level will work out. Then there is the handicap due to CP's health issues this spring and summer. That alone is at least going to cause some concern and affect the odds. Hope it works out for the best.
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We know the players who were here last year did not work out, so is it really a gamble to replace them?
 
Not Sure said:
We know the players who were here last year did not work out, so is it really a gamble to replace them?
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Well I don't know.

It might not make sense to replace a bunch of guys who barely got recruiting attention from other P5 schools with a bunch of guys who had recruiting attention from highly ranked schools.
 
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