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I hate that we missed on the OL last year like we missed on the LBs and CBs this year
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Official CU vs TCU Game Thread - 10/4 @ 5:30 MT on FOX
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2 career TDs Trent Walker?
Per usual, your reading comprehension is piss poor. I didn't say no one else could have succeeded.
We all do know that hire after hire after hire since Barnett have failed to produce more than momentary success at best.
Prime has a lot to prove, but this talk of him being on the hot seat at this moment is insane.
Prime made a big mistake in promoting Shurmur to OC. He may not still be here if he wasn't promoted, an outcome we would accept, but Shurmur is much better suited for a consultant roll than he is active coaching.
He is highly respected in the coaching field for his knowledge. His problem is that he has always struggled to turn that into points when managing game situations.
Prime can recruit, Prime is a great motivator and is excels at building relationships and handling people be they players or coaches.
What he doesn't do well is manage game situations well which is a trait shared by a lot of highly successful coaches. What those guys do is hire coordinators who are very good at in game management to compliment them.
Prime needs to loosen up on his loyalty and find somebody he can trust to be his in-game decision maker. That person can have a pro background but has to have a strong, recent background at the college level. The pro game is the target for talented recruits and having that voice of NFL experiences can hold players attention but the college game isn't the pro game, Prime needs somebody who can manage a college game.
He is highly respected in the coaching field for his knowledge. His problem is that he has always struggled to turn that into points when managing game situations.
Prime can recruit, Prime is a great motivator and is excels at building relationships and handling people be they players or coaches.
What he doesn't do well is manage game situations well which is a trait shared by a lot of highly successful coaches. What those guys do is hire coordinators who are very good at in game management to compliment them.
Prime needs to loosen up on his loyalty and find somebody he can trust to be his in-game decision maker. That person can have a pro background but has to have a strong, recent background at the college level. The pro game is the target for talented recruits and having that voice of NFL experiences can hold players attention but the college game isn't the pro game, Prime needs somebody who can manage a college game.
This is obvious to me
Trogdor
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There's not a living OSU fan who would agree with you. It's Walker by a mile. And in 3 weeks when CU is 2-6 and CP is 10-18 vs P-4 opponents while having beaten absolutely no team of consequence, the talk will be even louder. What kind of coach is he without being able to recruit his own son?
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Prime best at talent development. The worst at being a tactician.
JFC ! Give it a rest you jealous, weirdo. What does it take for you to be fulfilled?
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That's not a reasonable statement because they aren't in Boulder. I am speaking in Boulder. Our recruiting budget is 50th and yes, we spent more on NIL than most Big XII teams. Most of that was for HS recruits which haven't let us down. We went cheap with the portal and we are shocked we are getting what we paid for outside of Salter who's a miss but you gotta pay for portal QBs. Everyone else does as well. Duke literally paid 4 million for Mensah and kept their LB gem from Michigan which we couldnt for NOK. I wonder how much better we would be with him at LB instead of JB or Hughes
You can't complain about Prime when it comes to talent inquisition when we just don't have the budget. I've gotten on Prime personally about 2023 HS class of not recruiting it heavily which would have helped us identify gems better which most coaches in this era does. That said, my issue with that class doesn't exclude that we needed the money this offseason to get starters on defense. We didn't have the money we needed and that's what's kicking our ass.
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JB had the highest PFF grade for a LB with a 58.3. The LB core has been a disaster and the biggest reason why we are struggling. They are bad at everything but tackling and French is bad at tackling. I just don't know how you can win with this defense. You can only coach so much. I remember saying our LB core is much better than it looks but the DL is so bad in 2023. This LB core is worse than 2023 DL core. It's even worse.
Proud of Amari McNeil. Proud of London Merritt and Keaton Wade. I think we feel good about 3 of our 4 DL and the depth for sure. Outside of DJ Mckinney and Hodge, the corners are bad. Preston constantly unlucky with calls although the Manjack TD was on him.
Hard to win with just 5 starters on defense and none of them are difference makers even if our depth is better than anyone in the Big XII.
Offensively, so much is us relying on our QB. The way we are built, our QBs have to produce and if you cant give us 24ppg, it could be rough. Not sure Juju can give us that but I know Salter or Staub can't. Hard to win with these two QBs.
Proud of Amari McNeil. Proud of London Merritt and Keaton Wade. I think we feel good about 3 of our 4 DL and the depth for sure. Outside of DJ Mckinney and Hodge, the corners are bad. Preston constantly unlucky with calls although the Manjack TD was on him.
Hard to win with just 5 starters on defense and none of them are difference makers even if our depth is better than anyone in the Big XII.
Offensively, so much is us relying on our QB. The way we are built, our QBs have to produce and if you cant give us 24ppg, it could be rough. Not sure Juju can give us that but I know Salter or Staub can't. Hard to win with these two QBs.
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You serious? Take a lap.
Who is pushing this narrative? How do you/we know this? It’s bvllsh!t and needs to be called out. We win this game with Juju. End of story.
KSU is a road game. And a guaranteed L.
This is what I’ve been saying for 3 weeks.
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Hard to say. We need 24ppg a game and we need a turnover free games which Salter and Staub aren't capable of against top opponents.
While our pass pro grade is 3rd in the nation and our run block grade is 80th but that's not awful, Salter does help both categories while crushing our passing and receiving grades. Hard to say Salter helps our running grades as he can run like a bonehead if your back isn't turned on defense.
Juju still has to be solid and he has to play at least decent. That's a higher level of play than the standard freshman QB. That said, Malik, Jason, and Bryce are balling. Bear is playing within the system. His top end peers are balling.
According to PFF, we have the 31st worst offense in the nation and while I think our passing and receiving grade is on Salter and Staub, our run and pass blocking has benefitted from Staub and Salter. No guarantee it will from Juju. He is not the mobile threat those two are even if he's no slouch running the ball.
Being average with an average offense will just give us average offensive results and that still might not be enough.
The plan should be simple with Juju. A lot of RPOs, a lot of under center throws and A LOT of true playaction while using Hayden, Miller, and Welch a lot like we did against TCU. Our offensive gameplan against TCU was good, Sadly our QB keeps getting exposed for being a horrible passer.
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This whole Juju is in diapers narrative needs to stop. He played for a big time HS, who has been nationally ranked for years and was a starter since he was a freshman (13 years old). He understands pressure and can spin the laces. He has not been given an opportunity, just excuses that he is young. He got a bag, he has talent, let's see what he has got. Take off the bubble wrap.
First of all, hope Prime is ok with the blood clot situation. That's scary shvt. As far as the team, it's time to put Juju out there. Salter can't cut it unfortunately, different level. Special teams, wtf?? Anybody yell PETER anymore?? Good Lord. That game had me so pissed off because damnit, you did it to yourselves. You choked up a 14-0 lead because of turnovers and stupid shvt. Get rid of Shurmur already.
We spent more on NIL than most Big 12 teams and cannot beat any Big 12 teams so far. The problem? Sounds like coaching to me.
What coaching?
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We didn't spend as much in the portal as half of the Big XII teams this level season. We spent most of our money on HS and two players in the portal. We went bargain bin shopping and the results speak for themselves
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Do we need to worry that he is going to hit the portal at the end of the season? Why would he stay here?
Because he will be the starter next season.
No and because he and his family love Prime. It was never a situation where he was going to start this year so nothing has really changed.
Obviously if Primes health issues force him to step back, all bets are off
Outside of Salters INTs, the first three quarters were well played, called, coached and executed. The 4th quarter was just a comedy of errors in all phases. No leadership, no killer instinct, and no idea how to close out and win a game.
Another game that just an above average QB wins.
Another game that just an above average QB wins.
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It's been fairly successful on the field. Outside of the Houston game this team has been competitive and set up to win in the 4th quarter. We simply do not have a QB who is a winner at this level and can make the plays needed to win in a major conference. Also, we do not have any NFL talents on the team this year outside some speculation at WR and of course the OL has talent. While I'm upset about the outcomes and performance of this team, I think looking at it now this team was overhyped as being better than last years because of the depth. Which is great to have a lot of guys who are equally good but not great when you don't have any true difference makers on the team. I didn't finish the game but watched S.Brown and J.Williams have balls go right through their arms while battling in coverage. 1st and 2nd RD WR's make those catches on their NFL draft tape. I watched DB's get Pass Interference calls again while defending slants. Hodge isn't playing in the NFL with that on his NFL tape. We just have alot of guys who are better than the Mountain West Conference but aren't better than the guys in the Big 12. They are equal to them. And we don't have a good QB and we don't have an OC that can make him a good QB because he isn't good at reading coverages pre snap or on the fly at a good level.