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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025

BuffBronco

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That speculated Pac 16 Division would suck for the Buffs

Would play only 2 against Cali/LeftCoast teams per year, would be a disaster for recruiting
 

30Something

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Would it matter if this means more winning seasons for football?
Maybe not, but it absolutely matters if it doesn't result in more winning seasons for football. Nobody wants to visit those **** holes again, and CU's visits to California would absolutely be cut severely. The alumni in CA would be hosed, which was apparently one of the draws of moving to the PAC in the first place.

As disappointed as I'd be, the Arizona fan bases would lose their damn minds though. LOL
 

Jalapeno

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Mizzou, A&M, Arkansas and LSU are all potential no votes

Mizzou, A&M, and Arkansas would be no votes. Not sure if LSU would do that but LSU could be guaranteed a cross division game with Bama to get the 11th yes vote which would admit OU & UT.
 

4BienemyTDs

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Respectfully disagree.
I guess it would be interesting to make a run at them as they are a darn good program at this point, and if available I would love them in the PAC. They feel like they would be the next hottest program in that league to be poached. Maybe not the Big 10?
 

hokiehead

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I guess it would be interesting to make a run at them as they are a darn good program at this point, and if available I would love them in the PAC. They feel like they would be the next hottest program in that league to be poached. Maybe not the Big 10?
If the XII collapses, i don't see them landing in any P5 (or equivalent) conference.

Yes, academics and yes, some recent success in football and hoops (and perennial wrestling contender). But...
No media market
Weak fan support
Geographic outlier for any other P5
 

4BienemyTDs

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If the XII collapses, i don't see them landing in any P5 (or equivalent) conference.

Yes, academics and yes, some recent success in football and hoops (and perennial wrestling contender). But...
No media market
Weak fan support
Geographic outlier for any other P5
Interesting take. I would take Iowa State for the quality of the overall program from top to bottom. Better than KU or TTU or OKST in my opinion.
 

Jalapeno

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If the XII collapses, i don't see them landing in any P5 (or equivalent) conference.

Yes, academics and yes, some recent success in football and hoops (and perennial wrestling contender). But...
No media market
Weak fan support
Geographic outlier for any other P5

You are probably right about media market but you are definitely wrong about fan support. They had good fan support even before Matt Campbell arrived and I recall they traveled well to Boulder in the past. ISU has no problems filling their 61K seat stadium or their arena for basketball. The only geographical outlier would be the Pac-12 in this case.
 

4BienemyTDs

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The PAC20 sounds just fine! Create 4 Pods or 2 Divisions and cover the country from the West Coast to Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas.
 

Shldr2Shldr

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That speculated Pac 16 Division would suck for the Buffs

Would play only 2 against Cali/LeftCoast teams per year, would be a disaster for recruiting
How would that be any different than the current setup? We are guaranteed one game in Cali every season. With Stanford and Cal in the north, there will be seasons we don't play either of them.
 

MtnBuff

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Don't assume that all of the current P5 schools end up being P5 schools in the next 5 years.

Beyond that as competing in college football at the highest level becomes more dependent on player budget and player compensation I fully expect a lot of schools to end up checking out of the arms race and that we see significantly fewer schools at the top level.
 

Shldr2Shldr

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If UT and OU are out of the picture, things get a little interesting for getting to 16...

NW - UO, OSU, UW, WSU
CA - USC, UCLA, Cal, Furd
Mtn - AZ, UA, UU, CU
Midwest - TCU, Houston, KU, and.... OSU?
 

Jalapeno

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How would that be any different than the current setup? We are guaranteed one game in Cali every season. With Stanford and Cal in the north, there will be seasons we don't play either of them.

If the Pac-12 stays at nine conference games, a game in Cali could be guaranteed. CU could also push for more MBB games in Cali as well.

Regardless of all of this, CU has more games against Texas schools lined up in the future. If we added TT, TCU, Houston, and Okie State, we could have the best of both worlds for recruiting.
 

Shldr2Shldr

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If the Pac-12 stays at nine conference games, a game in Cali could be guaranteed. CU could also push for more MBB games in Cali as well.

Regardless of all of this, CU has more games against Texas schools lined up in the future. If we added TT, TCU, Houston, and Okie State, we could have the best of both worlds for recruiting.

Part of me really wants TT because it is a pretty easy road trip and not a bad little college town. They just don't bring any TV dollars with them...
 

Jalapeno

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Don't assume that all of the current P5 schools end up being P5 schools in the next 5 years.

Beyond that as competing in college football at the highest level becomes more dependent on player budget and player compensation I fully expect a lot of schools to end up checking out of the arms race and that we see significantly fewer schools at the top level.

This is why I put in the time towards FCS football and now association football. I even took a peek at some RMAC football games from 2019. There is no guarantee that I will like major college sports when the dust settles even if some of the allure has been an uneven playing field that has been going on for years.
 

Jalapeno

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Part of me really wants TT because it is a pretty easy road trip and not a bad little college town. They just don't bring any TV dollars with them...

I believe their alumni does have a presence in the major TX television markets. The presence of CU alumni on the west coast was certainly a selling point for CU to the then Pac-10 but Lubbock is no Denver. Every interaction I had with TT fans all over the years were great.
 

hokiehead

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You are probably right about media market but you are definitely wrong about fan support. They had good fan support even before Matt Campbell arrived and I recall they traveled well to Boulder in the past. ISU has no problems filling their 61K seat stadium or their arena for basketball. The only geographical outlier would be the Pac-12 in this case.
They only sold out half their home games in 2019, a bowl year. They didn't even sell out for Texas.
 

Shldr2Shldr

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1) If they were able to sit on this up until a week before dominoes start falling... well good on them. That is impressive.

2) Pac12 Commish better get busy.
 

MtnBuff

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This is why I put in the time towards FCS football and now association football. I even took a peek at some RMAC football games from 2019. There is no guarantee that I will like major college sports when the dust settles even if some of the allure has been an uneven playing field that has been going on for years.
As those who have followed my other games threads in the past know I like RMAC football.

These guys are rarely going to end up in the NFL (although CSU-P has as many players as some lesser P5 teams) but these are some good football players and good teams. A lot of guys who are a little to short or 20-30lbs light for the NFL. Some other guys who are big enough but a step or two slow.

Overall though the games are highly entertaining and can be very competitive. As an added bonus the core of most of these teams are players from Colorado high schools.
 

Jalapeno

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As those who have followed my other games threads in the past know I like RMAC football.

These guys are rarely going to end up in the NFL (although CSU-P has as many players as some lesser P5 teams) but these are some good football players and good teams. A lot of guys who are a little to short or 20-30lbs light for the NFL. Some other guys who are big enough but a step or two slow.

Overall though the games are highly entertaining and can be very competitive. As an added bonus the core of most of these teams are players from Colorado high schools.

I only got started with an Adams State-SD Mines game and haven't checked back since. I just now know where to watch unless that changes this year but if I was to watch those games, it would be a crash course in D2 football because I think I'll be also watching the Lone Star Conference which uses the same streaming service as the RMAC. I'm most interested in seeing who is the best down to the worst team of the RMAC & LSC and what type of offense they run. If I know who is the best from top to bottom, I could just simply watch the "Game Of The Week" type of games on any level.

I'm probably going to watch the fewest P5 games this year and focus more on G5 down to D2 football. Been watching the same old P5 stuff for a little over 30 years so I'm ready for something fresh.

Time for me to hit Google Sheets and put together a TV schedule for myself.
 
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