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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025
This wouldn't be a surprise at all.
Texas sees themselves as not only an elite football program (athletic program) but also as an elite public university.
While they aren't Cal or UCLA or Michigan they are ranked and considered in the top end of large public universities.
https://cwur.org/2020-21.php
OU is certainly a few steps down in that regard but they have been putting a lot of money and effort towards increasing their standing. All indications are that they are making a serious push for AAU status.
Courting the SEC would be a way for them to encourage the B1G to look at adding them.
If they don't get what they want from the B1G the SEC would still be a powerful consolation prize.
We all know that college football is changing and will likely change even more over the next few years. The two conferences in the best position to take advantage of those changes are the SEC and the B1G. This is a move that could mean tens of millions of dollars a year for each of these schools.
As stated above OU is aiming for AAU status. For the B1G that would be enough to get them Texas and it's huge TV market impact.
They can put their noses in the air all they want they did admit Nebraska and they have some other schools that aren't academic powerhouses. It's all about the money and Texas/OU would make all of them richer. This is exactly the reason that the SEC would want them as well.
If Kansas State brought the kind to media dollar impact that UT/OU do conferences would figure out a way to justify adding them.
UT and OU to the Pac 12 would balance power.
Not sure that actually happens until we demonstrate we are beyond the clown show of the last decade plus between the conference commissioner and the Presidents.
Not sure that actually happens until we demonstrate we are beyond the clown show of the last decade plus between the conference commissioner and the Presidents.
This would be the best thing for college football and would make a lot of sense.
Those two schools though aren't interested in taking less money to join a conference that can't get out of it's own way.
I believe OU is similar to where Utah is academically and you would have to think that school could be getting more research money given their meteorology department in light of climate change these days.
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Latest Research Rankings. Every Pac-12, SEC, and Big 12 (except Baylor & TCU) are listed in the VHRU category. I think every ACC school is listed as well. MWC schools listed are: CSU, UNLV, UNM, Hawaii, and Nevada. I think academics will be less of a priority this time around.
The fanbases of both schools do not want the Pac-12 and I imagine their big money boosters feel the same way. I don't have the slightest hint of confidence that the Pac-12 can get those two at this point. However, the Pac-12 could help its case if they decided to sell the P12N to Fox or Disney.
Wow
The ACC should already be talking to West Virginia. And then hope that ND decides to join in football.
New ACC commissioner wants Notre Dame as football member
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — New Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner Jim Phillips made it clear he wants Notre Dame to join the conference as a full-time football member after what he described as a “beautiful and beneficial relationship” during an unusual 2020 season.
apnews.com
If the XII crumbles, i think the ACC gets WVU and a Cincy or something, and ND stays status quo.The ACC should already be talking to West Virginia. And then hope that ND decides to join in football.
New ACC commissioner wants Notre Dame as football member
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — New Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner Jim Phillips made it clear he wants Notre Dame to join the conference as a full-time football member after what he described as a “beautiful and beneficial relationship” during an unusual 2020 season.
If this happens, then P12 should look at TCU, Oklahoma State, Houston, and Kansas State.
Cincy wouldn't have anything to do with the Big 12 crumbling. I actually don't think the ACC would expand unless ND commits. That way they could hold a spot for them. Unless they decide to take WV but that would present a challenge with the football scheduling having 15 teams. And remember they only have room for 1 more team to expand since they're already at 15 teams in basketball and all other sports.
I assume you meant ACC? Although the AAC also has a presence in Florida
If OU and UT go to the SEC then this is a good option, except I'd put Texas Tech in there instead of Houston. But the best part about this list is that it doesn't include KU. Never understood all the love for KU going to the Pac12 - these expansion decisions are 100% driven by football.
The competition in the AAC wouldn't be as great in the ACC and that is why I said WVU could be lethal in the AAC. The AAC would benefit from the collapsed Big 12 unless the Big 12 raids the AAC.
You might want to cross TCU off that list since the P12 won't take religious schools. But this could be one of those desperate times where the P12 will have to take TCU anyway. Much better choice than Baylor though.
TCU was the next highest on the list for Research Universities list and is in a much larger location than Texas Tech
Adding the next 3 states to our East, especially two within Texas was the plan
BuffBronco
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16 team 'super conferences' is coming ain't it?
I'm not sure how the P12 would pick TCU over TTU in this case since TTU is VHRU and TCU is not. Houston is definitely a go in this case.
If I had my way, I'd say Houston, UTSA, TCU, and Oklahoma State provided that UTSA would pump in the money to upgrade their facilities. If not UTSA, I'd go with KU...we need another dirty basketball team to root against.
FIFY
Iowa State would be a big-time BIG 10 target and they know it....
Nebraska fans would be like NOT ANOTHER IOWA SCHOOL!
It would be like we traded the Big XII for a ****tier Big 8 than we were in 25 years ago.
Why ksu over Kansas? Serious, not in a snarky way.
Respectfully disagree.