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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025
I understand the sentiment… but stakes seem considerably higher this time around… Pac didn’t have to take Big 12 package last time around and decided to stand pat… this time around, seems like the writing is on the wall where we are rapidly headed towards super conferences and teaming up with Big Ten seems like best case scenario for both sides… with the more aggressive Pac schools who still see the value of big money college sports trying to leverage their position. The names listed don’t seem all that surprising considering you have CU, relative newcomer with ties to Big Ten footprint (no loyalty to Pac, generally, but would prefer to remain tied to Pac schools I think), and the big money “blue bloods” of the conference who most likely are frustrated with the Pacs recent decline). Arizona seems like the notable missing piece but maybe Big Ten isn’t interested or Arizona prefers to keep historic Pac in place / has some loyalty. Retaining Pac connection while also restoring historic rivalries in superior conference seems like the absolute best case scenario for CU. Coast to coast branding fits CU as well and would seem like natural fit with our alumni base.
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ahoelsken
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Their president (Carol Folt?) is even more anti-athletics.
I have negative levels of confidence in Rick George, etc. to make this sort of move happen. If they do it, I’ll be barbecuing my crow.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
1. You're not talking about teaming up. You're talking a group of lions (the B1G) stealing an elephant (USC/UCLA/Oregon/Washington/Colorado) from another group of lions (the Pac 12) and forcing that other group of lions to eat a nearby rotting impala carcass (the Big 12's leftovers).
2. The West Coast schools consistently show football is not as important as it is elsewhere. Nobody knows what they're going to do-and the idea that USC pulls something similar to what Texas did 10 years ago (which would probably cause anyone else out there to stay while we go our own) isn't that far-fetched to at least me. 3. The best thing for this institution is to be in the Big 10. The TV money/visibility is better. Its a more stable league. Plus the tradition of the Nebraska rivalry is back-and that's great for both us and NU.
4. Here's what I'm saying-They're not making any sort of move west without being like "Yes, we're going to take Colorado and then make another move" on top of that if the west coast schools flake and stand pat.
Channeling my 17 year old daughter soon to be a Buff: "That would be amaze-balls!"
22 players on the field, 4 downs, 10 yards, six points for a touchdown.
And trust me, I know what four down football looks like because the kickers can't even hit a FG from the 10 yard line.
Texter also mentions in a different one that Colorado is looked upon highly within the Big 10 right now.
At least CU would maintain its general level of success in the division
I think that was their attempt at a weed joke.
UW showed what's possible if you commit to your football program.
While I realize our FB team has been less than stellar for quite a while, CU would be an attractive addition to any conference. We do have a significant history which does carry weight, we're in a prime geographical location with a supporting fan base, and an accredited research university. I could see CU generating quite a bit of interest to the B1G if they are evaluating expansion (which they should be if the SEC monkey business pans out).
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
I’m having a hard time believing there is a scenario where Colorado is more attractive to the BIG than Stanford or where any BIG expansion scenarios don’t begin with Notre Dame. I’d love this rumor to be true, but not getting my hopes up.
Geographically speaking, CU is a far more attractive option. But if they are considering U$C, Oregon, and UCLA, I would agree with you. Stanford would be very attractive.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Geography seems to be irrelevant based on the schools being discussed. The only negative with Stanford I can think of is that it probably means taking Cal also and taking the 2nd Bay Area school maybe isn’t all that accretive, whereas Colorado wouldn’t need to be added with a partner. But that’s a thin argument.
How is Colorado a prime geographical location in the context of college football? Colorado is largely irrelevant for recruiting plus us and Utah are the 2 most isolated P5 schools with no school within 500 miles of Boulder.
Between 2014 and 2019 we were 50th in the country in average attendance with us using 86% of Folsom's capacity. That doesn't scream rabid fanbase to me and I think the state's apathy towards CFB in general has been discussed on this forum at length.
Academics aside, I think the only thing Cal and Stanford truly have going for them is that they're in California as both fanbases seem largely apathetic.
We’ve talked about whether Cal admin even wants a football program before and while they’ve put together a solid football program, Stanford’s fanbase is garbage. When CU is good, there is a decent following and they will sell tickets.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Stanford is a premier institution in a premier location (both as a travel destination and employment center), they are located in the VC capital of the universe, they have the 3rd largest endowment in the country, they have a long history in the conference and with the BIG (they played in the first Rose Bowl game), they have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to wealthy alumni and they have a very robust athletic department. I think there’s a lot to like about Stanford from the outside.
I think UNC, Clemson and FSU are more attractive to the B1G than all those backups and most of the first choices you list. Hell, I'd put GT and UVA ahead of those backups.
What does being the VC capital of the world have to do with College Football?
You know we are talking about college football and not if students can get hired out of college right? The big 10 doesn’t give a **** if traveling to the Bay Area is nice or not. They really don’t care about the local companies.