You got to remember that we have been bad since 2006. We have lots of experience to build from. At this point I expect them to lose and am thrilled if they actually win.
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Official time for Jon Embree to RESIGN Thread
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You got to remember that we have been bad since 2006. We have lots of experience to build from. At this point I expect them to lose and am thrilled if they actually win.
I see someone caught me taking repeated swigs from the whiskey bottle while also enjoying Sacky's Martini's. They were different at this tailgate, but damn, still super delicious. Might have to make that recipe change permanent sacky!
To go back in time and not hire a bunch of friends? Instead, hire a proven OC & DC? Hire a OL coach that wasn't washed up and resting on his laurels from ~10 years ago?
Embree needs to worry about the team and not about his friends. If EB isn't cutting it as OC, officially relieve him of those duties (if EB isn't cutting it, then drop him regardless of any buyout). If Marshall can't recruit and can't coach (I know, it's not 100% on the OL since we keep switching offensive schemes every week), find someone that can. And if Embree really believes that he has the right ACs in place, fine. But the mob will really be out for blood next year if there aren't changes and there isn't real progress evident on gameday.
There really are no easy answers. I doubt Embree is gone at the end of this season, so it's either ride it out with the guys he hired, or admit there were mistakes made and try to correct them.
SuperiorBuff
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I'm not going to bash Embree for the pick of Bieniemy. It was a risk, but a decent risk IMO. The Brown and Marshall picks still make no sense to me.
I was not in favor of hiring Embo. Once the trigger was pulled, I supported him. Still do, I would like to see him become a marvelous success. However, when one looks at his resume, it is hard to imagine what was being thought.
I wanted Mac back. Maybe that would have not been any better. He has been out of thegame a long time, but Ihave a funny feeling he would not have allowed the team to show up on Sept. 1, 2012 so clearly unprepared. Same with 9/8 and 9/15. I thought if Mac could come back and take the heat while the rebuild went on, and Embo and/or EB had some OJT it would work out. Water under the bridge.
I actually thought EB was a better HC candidate than Embo, that probably would have been a disaster.
Changing horses right noew probably isn't the way to go, but I, likel others, am sick and tired of watching the Buffs fall farther and farther behind, it is now year seven where the Buffs will lose more than they win. How MB survives this I don't know, but he is only a portion of the problem with BB and Dr. Phil really pulling the strings.
We haven't seen the worst part of the season yet.
ASU has a good shot to beat us by same margin as UCLA and then it's USC, Oregon, Stanford,
Washington and Arizona ... :scared2:
the margin of victory for these teams agains CU will probably be 40 points-
How can anybody keep a team together with such ugly ?
Buckle up Buffs cause it's not going to be pretty.
ASU has a good shot to beat us by same margin as UCLA and then it's USC, Oregon, Stanford,
Washington and Arizona ... :scared2:
the margin of victory for these teams agains CU will probably be 40 points-
How can anybody keep a team together with such ugly ?
Buckle up Buffs cause it's not going to be pretty.
We are staring 1-11 in the face. 2-10 is only possible because UU lost JWynn. Now their QB play is almost as bad as ours.
sackygate on Thursday night is going to be EPIC. You don't want to miss that.
BuffaloChuck
Member
Yeah. Go ahead and make my day, why don'tcha?!! Sheesh... thanks for the reminder! (NEG REP just doesn't cut it - where's that "He destroyed my day" Rep points icon?!!)
We're going to be facing opponents that may need to create headline splashes by the scoring margin. And they may want to impress their own recruit-prospects, which may actually lower scores because perhaps opponents will play more frosh against us. "Sign with us - see? You'll get playing time soon!"
Of course, if a program says, "We play Frosh but we don't let them score", that's sends almost a worse-than-opposite signal to them. "Y'mean, you'll let me on the field where I can get injured, but I can't show off? I can't score?" So, some programs will open the throttles and perhaps encourage 3rd and 4th Quarter scoring.
Then, we're facing injuries, too, as our players may take a few plays off ("What does it matter if I try very hard? It's 35-0 in the First Quarter!") and thus open themselves up to injuries they'd have avoided if they were fully attentive.
The moral to the story: it can get worse. InThe's right - it can get VERY MUCH worse. And "rain" will be the least of it.
amazing how teams all over the country, including the one CU just played, with young freshmen qb's look good. Young teams all over the country at least keeps games close... JE needs to not be like hawkins by not adjusting his staff. Changes need to be made. Sticking your friend on the field vs booth is not a staff adjustment. CU needs a better play book with better calls made to help put your players into winnable individual battles within the game. At the point CU is right now - every loss is making the recruiting battles harder and the hole deeper
fUCLA's OL is almost all underclassmen. RSFrosh QB to boot.
Rraalph 3000
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#1 difference is the talent level of the most important position....a true freshman Hundley would still be 4-5 times better than a Senior uber-experienced Webb
When you lack talent at the most important position on your team for 7 straight years....you lose more games than you win for 7 straight years
liverflukes
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You're welcome for that Whiskey bottle btw :nod:
fatbuff
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Did it come with a nipple?
CVilleBuff
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Al Groh is now available to coach some defense, just sayin'. Not sure WTF went on this year at GT, but a lack of defense certainly wasn't his downfall as HC at UVA..
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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He was defensive coordinator for 2 and a half years at Georgia Tech.
Paul Johnson has been Georgia Tech's head coach since 2008 (this is his 5th year). He has taken Georgia Tech to a bowl game every year he has been there. Is there some pressure on him this season?
CVilleBuff
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I follow the ACC closely, and for a year and a half Groh was doing well with their defense and they were improving. Then, at the end of last season, the wheels came off and they appeared to never recover this year other than doing a solid job in game 1 against VT in Blacksburg this season.
Johnson is starting to feel a bit of heat. The expectations aren't sky high in Atlanta (haven't been since the 1930s), but Johnson is a victim of his own early success. It's becoming increasingly clear he thrived off of Chan Gailey's leftovers his first couple years, and he is not recruiting well. The AJC wrote a scathing article a couple weeks ago implying GT is closer to Georgia Southern in terms of talent than they are to UGA.
Groh runs a 3-4 and had a very solid D at UVA for 9 seasons. His downfall as HC was his offense, as he had his son as OC and, shockingly, that failed. Groh has a great mind for defense. He's arrogant, but he knows his ****. However, while I am of the belief almost anyone would be an improvement on D, I also recognize that we need some young blood on this staff and obviously a 65 year old Groh doesn't fit that mold.
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Johnson is on a very short leash, and I'll go on record saying no thanks at this point.
Franklin at Vandy intrigues.
Sonny Dykes at La. Tech. IIRC intrigues.
Christenson at Wyo. intrigues.
However, I think, even though 1-11 or 2-10 is a virtual certainty, Embo will be back on the sidelines next year.
Franklin at Vandy intrigues.
Sonny Dykes at La. Tech. IIRC intrigues.
Christenson at Wyo. intrigues.
However, I think, even though 1-11 or 2-10 is a virtual certainty, Embo will be back on the sidelines next year.
do not want- early on he looked like he was a miracle worker but lately things have regressed
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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They seem to be a bit up and down. Bowl game in year 1. Struggle in year 2. Bowl game in year 3. Struggle in year 4.
As long as we're throwing names out there (and I think Embree deserves at least 1 more year, for the record), I'd like to see CU at least interview Gary Anderson from Utah State. Am I crazy? He has limited experience, but he's really done well the last two years at Utah State. In addition, if you give Embree one more year, you'd have one more year's worth of results to judge him by.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Unfortunately, his only real "big time" experience was his time at Utah. He was the defensive line / special teams coach at Utah in 1995 and 1996, then he was their defensive coordinator from 2004 - 2008. He's never been in a BCS conference before. His best complete season at Utah State was last year, when he went 7-6. He has done a nice job with his defense though.
I would hope CU can attract a bigger fish.
Finest
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One more name that intrigues me is Willie Taggart at Western Kentucky. He coached under Harbaugh (Jack and Jim both) as rb coach and recruited Cali, along with SEC area. He was a coordinator at WKU and is head coach now and his teams seem to play disciplined football in the times that I've watched them. He has improved the talent level at WKU and will soon be a hot commodity. They're 4-1, with the only loss coming to Alabama by 35.
