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Oliver in Mock Draft as First Rounder

Anyone say the 2020 Olympics? Wouldn't that conflict with training camp? If it appears that he is going to the right NFL team when it comes to his Olympic dreams, he should just take the money and go. That might be a $5M signing bonus in the 20s picks and if he's wise with his money, he could be in position to pay it back if necessary. Most NFL contracts are guaranteed for like two to three seasons anyway and he'd have the 2018 and 2019 season to play in the NFL and then train for the 2020 Olympics.

2020 T&F Trails: http://www.usatf.org/News/2020-U-S--Olympic-Team-Trials---Track---Field-awar.aspx

June 19-28 which seems to fall before NFL training camp.

2020 Tokyo Games is July 24 through August 9th. At most he misses two preseason games and that would be for his third season...not much risk in this case. Doesn't the biggest improvement for NFL players occur after the first season?
 
Jalapeno said:
Anyone say the 2020 Olympics? Wouldn't that conflict with training camp? If it appears that he is going to the right NFL team when it comes to his Olympic dreams, he should just take the money and go. That might be a $5M signing bonus in the 20s picks and if he's wise with his money, he could be in position to pay it back if necessary. Most NFL contracts are guaranteed for like two to three seasons anyway and he'd have the 2018 and 2019 season to play in the NFL and then train for the 2020 Olympics.

2020 T&F Trails: http://www.usatf.org/News/2020-U-S--Olympic-Team-Trials---Track---Field-awar.aspx

June 19-28 which seems to fall before NFL training camp.

2020 Tokyo Games is July 24 through August 9th. At most he misses two preseason games and that would be for his third season...not much risk in this case. Doesn't the biggest improvement for NFL players occur after the first season?
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I'd say that's something he needs to bring up with everyone he talks to at the combine.
 
Question is how much would an Olympian earn if he makes it?
 
If he goes to the NFL, I don't think he goes to the Olympics. Does an NFL team allow their investment in him be compromised with the potential of him getting hurt at the Olympics?
 
Big Iron Buff said:
If he goes to the NFL, I don't think he goes to the Olympics. Does an NFL team allow their investment in him be compromised with the potential of him getting hurt at the Olympics?
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I tend to agree.

I guess I don't know his chances when it comes to making the US team. Is he really that good? I just don't pay enough attention to these things.

That might be part of what drives his decision, someone sitting down with him and honestly assessing his Olympic chances. I admire anyone who's willing to sacrifice as much as Olympic hopefuls are. In his case, however, he might be sacrificing way more than others - to the tune of a few million bucks.
 
http://www.flashresults.com/2017_Meets/Outdoor/05-13_Pac-12/042_Scores.htm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ens-decathlon-medal-winners-times-and-results

He finished 4th in the Decathlon at the Pac 12 Championships in the spring (first link). The guy who won beat Oliver at all the field events while Oliver was faster than him in all the running events. I expect that gap can close with more training.

As for the Olympics, the second link is the top 5 scores from Rio. Oliver’s Pac 12 performance was about 1200 points off 5th place.

I have no idea if it would be reasonable to assume that a year or two of focus and training could close that gap or not.
 
Looking at the Pac-12 results, looks like he was in first from the first through the seventh event.

I could see how that could give a guy some confidence.
 
It’s a long shot, for sure, but he’s been consistent on the record about loving both sports equally and never putting one before the other. If he declares for the draft and participates in the combine, he won’t be able to run track in the Spring. He did say, when the time comes where he is forced to make a decision, football would be his choice, but I’m just not so sure he believes he has to make that choice just yet.

It’s great to basically consider him gone, and then be very pleasantly surprised if he chooses to come back, though.
 
Who gets hurt running track at the Olympics? Pulled hammy, maybe?

Olympics are a once in a lifetime opportunity. The number of olympians is far less than the number of NFL players. Thing is, he can do both.
 
sackman said:
Who gets hurt running track at the Olympics? Pulled hammy, maybe?

Olympics are a once in a lifetime opportunity. The number of olympians is far less than the number of NFL players. Thing is, he can do both.
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Pole Vault is his weakest event... and yes, that is dangerous.

Looks like there is one NFL player ever to compete in the Olympics while on an NFL roster. Some dude named Nate Ebner - he plays safety for the Patriots and was also on the US Olympic Rugby team in 2016 in Rio. All the rest of the NFL Olympians participated either before or after their NFL career.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Ebner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_Olympians
 
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sackman said:
Who gets hurt running track at the Olympics? Pulled hammy, maybe?

Olympics are a once in a lifetime opportunity. The number of olympians is far less than the number of NFL players. Thing is, he can do both.
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We know you are a huge Olympics fan but unless he is absolutely elite there is no real reason to go other than fulfilling a dream, and knowing that his NFL team may let him do it but won't be happy about it.

The very top T&F athletes make well over 6 figures in sponsorship money but it doesn't come close to NFL first round money. Outside of a couple weeks every four years most Americans don't know who any T&F athletes are and don't care too.

It's great that he is doing both in college, he seems like a well rounded guy who is going to do well at just about anything he sets his mind to do. There is a huge difference though between someone who can compete at the NCAA level and at the world level. If he can get to the world level it might be worth setting his NFL career back (and missing a good part of training camp and the activities leading up to it would set him back a lot) but if he is going to be another guy in the field who isn't likely to reach the podium then no.
 
TSchekler said:
Sarcasm?
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No, that is nearly impossible. I don’t know how this turned into a bash Oliver thread but it’s not like he is winning the pac 12 right now. In order for him to compete at the highest level he would have to dedicate all of his time to it and couldn’t risk injury in the nfl.
 
Duff Man said:
Not sarcasm. He will have to choose.
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onealcd said:
No, that is nearly impossible. I don’t know how this turned into a bash Oliver thread but it’s not like he is winning the pac 12 right now. In order for him to compete at the highest level he would have to dedicate all of his time to it and couldn’t risk injury in the nfl.
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I won’t argue, as you’re probably right, but he’s been pretty adamant that he’s going to try and do both. Maybe it’s just been wishful thinking and reality will eventually set in.
 
TSchekler said:
I won’t argue, as you’re probably right, but he’s been pretty adamant that he’s going to try and do both. Maybe it’s just been wishful thinking and reality will eventually set in.
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I think that was more about college, not about how he developed professionally.
 
onealcd said:
I think that was more about college, not about how he developed professionally.
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He’s specifically talked about his hopes for an NFL team to allow him to try to compete for a spot in the Olympics. Again, probably wishful thinking, but it’s definitely something he’s stated as a goal.
 
TSchekler said:
He’s specifically talked about his hopes for an NFL team to allow him to try to compete for a spot in the Olympics. Again, probably wishful thinking, but it’s definitely something he’s stated as a goal.
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Think about a NFL season stretching into January or early February 2020. Getting beat up over the course of at least 16 games without any decathlon training... he is then just going to roll into decathlon training for six months to compete in the Olympics? Definitely wishful thinking, even if the NFL team is on board.
 
Duff Man said:
Think about a NFL season stretching into January or early February 2020. Beat up over the course of at least 16 games without any decathlon training. He is then just going to roll into decathlon training for six months to compete in the Olympics? Definitely wishful thinking, even if the NFL team is on board.
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2020 is a long way off, too. I'd be very surprised if he will progress to the point where he could compete with guys who dedicated 12 months to the sport for the next 2+ years. I hate to say it, but he needs to choose.
 
TSchekler said:
...If he declares for the draft and participates in the combine, he won’t be able to run track in the Spring...

It’s great to basically consider him gone, and then be very pleasantly surprised if he chooses to come back, though.
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He can declare and stay in school for the spring semester - and run track. Declaring, being drafted, and going to the combine wouldn't take that away from him.

To the 2nd sentence, talking about a Buff player leaving early feels good and bad all at once. I would love to see him stay but he's gotta do what's right for him.
 
Also, any player with a 1st round grade needs to leave and get paid. Shouldn't even be a debate.
 
Clean Undies said:
Eric Galko, surprisingly, insulted Colorado while praising Oliver.

Not surprisingly, congrats to Isiah.

Surprisingly, I really don’t want Eric to be looking at his phone while crossing a busy intersection.
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That was sort of a curious statement.
 
BehindEnemyLines said:
He can declare and stay in school for the spring semester - and run track. Declaring, being drafted, and going to the combine wouldn't take that away from him.

To the 2nd sentence, talking about a Buff player leaving early feels good and bad all at once. I would love to see him stay but he's gotta do what's right for him.
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Not sure the first part is accurate. Once you declare and hire an agent, you are no longer an amateur. Pretty sure he would immediately become ineligible to compete in any Spring sports. He could probably declare but not hire an agent, but that would set him back, IMO.
 
The summer Olympics take place right in the middle of training camp and preseason. If Oliver truly is a first round talent, he will probably be a teams best DB. I am not sure any NFL team would be willing to allow their best DB to miss all of training camp, but I guess you never know.
 
Wasn't this scenario like Jeremy Bloom's more or less except for the NFL part. I mean didn't he have to give up football to do moguls or whatever he did? Wait didn't Bloom play in the league for a bit? Been awhile and I don't recall.
 
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