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OSU vs Stanford

  • Thread starter Thread starter Idot Buff
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Buffnik said:
This is why he should have won the Heisman. He's got nuthin' at WR. Stanford would have been a borderline bowl team without him.
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yup. he had one to start the year, and it is no coincidence that Stanford's only loss came once he went out. I'm frankly appalled at Stanford's depth at the position, someone screwed up bad there.
 
I agree Luck should have won Heisman. On another note amazing that Stanford has 4 FB's on scholarship. Hope we get there.
 
Darth Snow said:
yup. he had one to start the year, and it is no coincidence that Stanford's only loss came once he went out. I'm frankly appalled at Stanford's depth at the position, someone screwed up bad there.
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Yup.

Stanford is going to be mediocre at best next year.
 
Darth Snow said:
yup. he had one to start the year, and it is no coincidence that Stanford's only loss came once he went out. I'm frankly appalled at Stanford's depth at the position, someone screwed up bad there.
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Does he play defense too? Cause that is why STanford lost to Oregon. Had no chance at stopping that attack
 
JimmyBuff said:
Does he play defense too? Cause that is why STanford lost to Oregon. Had no chance at stopping that attack
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well their O getting stopped in the 2d half and having no deep threat sort of helped that loss as well. Stanford didn't have the horses to keep up with that Oregon attack, which I believe scored more than 30 points in every single game this year, including against Wiscy's top 10 D. So perhaps my statement wasn't completely worthless.
 
Darth Snow said:
Stanford didn't have the horses to keep up with that Oregon attack, which I believe scored more than 30 points in every single game this year, including against Wiscy's top 10 D. So perhaps my statement wasn't completely worthless.
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Wait a minute, Wiscy top 10 D? You mean in Big10? :lol:
 
Darth Snow said:
well, wiscy is in the big 10, but yes, their D prior to today was ranked in the top 10 in the nation.
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Well, I didn't really check any stat, but if you keep following B1G football all over this season, I think it's pretty obvious that in terms of D, MSU > OSU > PSU > UM > Wisc
 
cnbuff410 said:
Well, I didn't really check any stat, but if you keep following B1G football all over this season, I think it's pretty obvious that in terms of D, MSU > OSU > PSU > UM > Wisc
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Please back that up with facts and I will be happy to concede the point.
 
Darth Snow said:
Please back that up with facts and I will be happy to concede the point.
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Fact: Wisconsin played a weak nonconference schedule and a bunch of bad offensive teams in the Big 10. The only 2 legit teams they played were michigan state twice and Oregon. 37, 39, 45 were the amount of points that they gave up. STill want to say that's a Top 10 defense?
 
Snow is right according to the NCAA stats.

[h=3]Bowl Subdivision (FBS) National Team Report
Total Defense[/h][TABLE="align: center"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 8"]Year: 2011[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 8"]Thru: 12/31/11 Minimum Pct. of Games Played [/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class: statstable, align: center"]
[TR]
RankNameGamesPlaysYdsAvgTDsYdspgmWinsLossesTies[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Alabama[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]676[/TD]
[TD]2295[/TD]
[TD]3.39[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]191.25[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]LSU[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]828[/TD]
[TD]3277[/TD]
[TD]3.96[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]252.08[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Georgia[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]790[/TD]
[TD]3490[/TD]
[TD]4.42[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]268.46[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]South Carolina[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]773[/TD]
[TD]3227[/TD]
[TD]4.17[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]268.92[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Michigan St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]832[/TD]
[TD]3545[/TD]
[TD]4.26[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]272.69[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Florida St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]859[/TD]
[TD]3575[/TD]
[TD]4.16[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]275.00[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Illinois[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]842[/TD]
[TD]3720[/TD]
[TD]4.42[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]286.15[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Wisconsin[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]786[/TD]
[TD]3809[/TD]
[TD]4.85[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]293.00[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Florida[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]788[/TD]
[TD]3595[/TD]
[TD]4.56[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]299.58[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Penn St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]823[/TD]
[TD]3611[/TD]
[TD]4.39[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]300.92[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]UCF[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]732[/TD]
[TD]3640[/TD]
[TD]4.97[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]303.33[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Texas[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]865[/TD]
[TD]3979[/TD]
[TD]4.60[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]306.08[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Temple[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]829[/TD]
[TD]4053[/TD]
[TD]4.89[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]311.77[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]BYU[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]832[/TD]
[TD]4074[/TD]
[TD]4.90[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]313.38[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Virginia Tech[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]813[/TD]
[TD]4081[/TD]
[TD]5.02[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]313.92[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Rutgers[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]831[/TD]
[TD]4084[/TD]
[TD]4.91[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]314.15[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Michigan[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]727[/TD]
[TD]3811[/TD]
[TD]5.24[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]317.58[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Boise St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]806[/TD]
[TD]4171[/TD]
[TD]5.17[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]320.85[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Vanderbilt[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]871[/TD]
[TD]4196[/TD]
[TD]4.82[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]322.77[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Arkansas St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]846[/TD]
[TD]3908[/TD]
[TD]4.62[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]325.67[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
JimmyBuff said:
Fact: Wisconsin played a weak nonconference schedule and a bunch of bad offensive teams in the Big 10. The only 2 legit teams they played were michigan state twice and Oregon. 37, 39, 45 were the amount of points that they gave up. STill want to say that's a Top 10 defense?
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see below. weak schedule or not, they were a damn solid D.

MtnBuff said:
Snow is right according to the NCAA stats.

Bowl Subdivision (FBS) National Team Report
Total Defense

[TABLE="align: center"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 8"]Year: 2011[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 8"]Thru: 12/31/11 Minimum Pct. of Games Played[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: statstable, align: center"]
[TR]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Alabama[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]676[/TD]
[TD]2295[/TD]
[TD]3.39[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]191.25[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]LSU[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]828[/TD]
[TD]3277[/TD]
[TD]3.96[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]252.08[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Georgia[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]790[/TD]
[TD]3490[/TD]
[TD]4.42[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]268.46[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]South Carolina[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]773[/TD]
[TD]3227[/TD]
[TD]4.17[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]268.92[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Michigan St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]832[/TD]
[TD]3545[/TD]
[TD]4.26[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]272.69[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Florida St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]859[/TD]
[TD]3575[/TD]
[TD]4.16[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]275.00[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Illinois[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]842[/TD]
[TD]3720[/TD]
[TD]4.42[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]286.15[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Wisconsin[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]786[/TD]
[TD]3809[/TD]
[TD]4.85[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]293.00[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Florida[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]788[/TD]
[TD]3595[/TD]
[TD]4.56[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]299.58[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Penn St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]823[/TD]
[TD]3611[/TD]
[TD]4.39[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]300.92[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]UCF[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]732[/TD]
[TD]3640[/TD]
[TD]4.97[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]303.33[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Texas[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]865[/TD]
[TD]3979[/TD]
[TD]4.60[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]306.08[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Temple[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]829[/TD]
[TD]4053[/TD]
[TD]4.89[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]311.77[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]BYU[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]832[/TD]
[TD]4074[/TD]
[TD]4.90[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]313.38[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Virginia Tech[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]813[/TD]
[TD]4081[/TD]
[TD]5.02[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]313.92[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Rutgers[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]831[/TD]
[TD]4084[/TD]
[TD]4.91[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]314.15[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Michigan[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]727[/TD]
[TD]3811[/TD]
[TD]5.24[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]317.58[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Boise St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]806[/TD]
[TD]4171[/TD]
[TD]5.17[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]320.85[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Vanderbilt[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]13[/TD]
[TD]871[/TD]
[TD]4196[/TD]
[TD]4.82[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]322.77[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: crailbg"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg"]Arkansas St.[/TD]
[TD="class: crailbg2"]12[/TD]
[TD]846[/TD]
[TD]3908[/TD]
[TD]4.62[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]325.67[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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