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Overall PAC12 football experience

If you think Colorado is bad, try living in Omaha! Cold as **** in the winter. Hot as hell and humid as **** in the summer. The absolute worst drivers. The only things to do on a regular basis, cost an arm and a leg for admission...and you deal with obnoxious crowds.

I took it for granted while I was there, but I really enjoy the Grand Valley area. My wife and I were there for three weeks a few years back. It didn’t really hit me how much I liked it, until we were in the Denver area for the final week we were out in CO. I’d really love to live nearby the mountains, so Golden would be it for me if I could live in the Front Range...Manitou (west of Hwy 24) would be a consideration too. Glenwood Springs or Carbondale would be my ultimate happy place!

Estes Park did not excite me at all. I enjoyed our cabin, just a little east of the YMCA on Hwy 66. Other than that I’d rather goto Grand Lake!
 
Buffsrock85 said:
Haha I wasn’t even bitching! This all started because I said Colorado sucks because you can’t attend a sporting event without being outnumbered by the opposing teams fans. Colorado is fine, I probably take it for granted because it’s all I know. I do hate the traffic but that’s anywhere and I do hate the cold but does anyone REALLY enjoy being cold? I love the summers here. I still don’t understand what the mass appeal is to Colorado and why everyone all of a sudden insisted on moving here. But I suppose compared to most states it’s probably better.

I am considering moving but who knows when.
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Cold in Colorado = Winter sports the same way Warm in Colorado = Summer sports.

I don’t like single degree days in Colorado the same way I don’t like 90+ degree days. All the same to me. And if I only had warm or cold sports, but not both, I would most certainly get bored.

I love that we get both pretty much equally.
 
I like cold, I like snow, I like having real seasons.

At some point in the future my wife and I will be moving to Grand Lake year around so it's a good thing I like snow and cold.

If I ever decided that I wanted to live someplace without a cold winter i would skip Hawaii and keep on going.

Immense amounts of open space, greatest place in the world for ocean sports, friendliest people I've met in my travels.

I'd settle in someplace on the coast of Australia.
 
Duff Man said:
Not that I care much about Utah, but "too late in season to care?" :ROFLMAO:
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Sorry Puff Man,

It will probably never get my juices going to travel to Ogden around Thanksgiving. They would both have to be ranked and winner takes the South title. I'm future years, I'll hopefully be looking a possible bowl visits. I have been to 12 CU bowl games.

It is Friday's funnies. You have been "Smiley'd." :D:D :D:D Don't make me break out one of your early posts where you said Montez would break all the passing records; I think he will fall short on a few. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: FYI, for future two :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: is:


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GuySmiley said:
Sorry Puff Man,

It will probably never get my juices going to travel to Ogden around Thanksgiving. They would both have to be ranked and winner takes the South title. I'm future years, I'll hopefully be looking a possible bowl visits. I have been to 12 CU bowl games.

It is Friday's funnies. You have been "Smiley'd." :D:D :D:D Don't make me break out one of your early posts where you said Montez would break all the passing records; I think he will fall short on a few. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: FYI, for future two :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: is:


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Break out all the old posts you want.

Downplaying a game because it is "too late in the season" is the height of stupidity.

Have a mediocre day.
 
Not Sure said:
My family from the Midwest absolutely adore Estes Park.

I’ll take Grand Lake over Estes any day and twice on Sundays.
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As someone who grew up in Estes Park, I agree with Grand Lake > Estes Park.
 
GuySmiley said:
Sorry Puff Man,

It will probably never get my juices going to travel to Ogden around Thanksgiving. They would both have to be ranked and winner takes the South title. I'm future years, I'll hopefully be looking a possible bowl visits. I have been to 12 CU bowl games.

It is Friday's funnies. You have been "Smiley'd." :D:D :D:D Don't make me break out one of your early posts where you said Montez would break all the passing records; I think he will fall short on a few. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: FYI, for future two :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: is:


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I've lived in coastal SoCal most of my life, and really like it. If I ever move inland, it would be in the Front Range area. To me, it has a great vibe and acceptable weather.
 
GuySmiley said:
Sorry Puff Man,
It will probably never get my juices going to travel to Ogden around Thanksgiving.
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Ogden? Going to check out a Weber State game?

To get back on topic I loved the Big 8 as that is what I grew up with. Expanding to the Texas schools totally destroyed a good thing, particularly UT and their "holier than thou" ego.

I guess I'll be the only one to say it, I miss the Big 8/12 road games. When going to a road game there you knew you were specifically going to a college town and going to a game where it was the main attraction in those towns so it had a certain atmosphere. With 2-3 exceptions you don't have that in the PAC, everything is located in the major cities, and sometimes I want to just get away from big city life once in a while. Plus there were several schools close enough where I could decide a day before that I wanted to go to a game and just hop in the car and go on a road trip solo or with anyone else that wanted to go. I can't bring myself to get a plane ticket at the last minute for several hundred $$$ to jump on a flight and rent a car.
 
zbuff said:
We talk about our great cultural fit in the Pac but then want to add BSU? That's just funny. They are just another mouth to feed.
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Just a couple of guys’ comments, but it does bring up the point that football has absolutely nothing to do with academic quality except in fans’ minds where it fits a desired narrative. Not disagreeing that pac12 has better academics than big12.
 
TSchekler said:
If you don’t understand the appeal of Colorado to non-natives, that most likely means you haven’t lived or really spent a ton of non-vacation time anywhere else.
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Do people spend lots of non vacation time other places? I guess if you travel for work all the time. My problem is every time I go on vacation I go to Europe, Hawaii, Vancouver, Seattle etc and so then I come home to brown Colorado in the winter with all the chain restaurants and it’s very bland lol. Colorado is fine, it’s home, for now.
 
aghcsm said:
Just a couple of guys’ comments, but it does bring up the point that football has absolutely nothing to do with academic quality except in fans’ minds where it fits a desired narrative. Not disagreeing that pac12 has better academics than big12.
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That's only part of the problem, although it is real in the school presidents' minds, not just fans' minds.They bring a small market but will take an equal cut of bigger markets.
 
Buffsrock85 said:
Do people spend lots of non vacation time other places? I guess if you travel for work all the time. My problem is every time I go on vacation I go to Europe, Hawaii, Vancouver, Seattle etc and so then I come home to brown Colorado in the winter with all the chain restaurants and it’s very bland lol. Colorado is fine, it’s home, for now.
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Have you lived anywhere else? Do you have family or in laws anywhere else where you’ve spent significant time visiting and not necessarily in a vacation mindset? And lolololololol on “Brown Colorado” in the winter comment when you use a city like Seattle as a better place to be.
 
Two ways to look at this Pac-12 move from the Big 12 and they are football & basketball.

Football has been a disappointment and it is not the losing that gets to me...it's the rivalry stuff. I didn't realize how much I missed playing Nebraska until last year's game where all of that bottled up hate for a team let loose in that game. I'd love to see CU play more former Big 8 rivals once in awhile. We are getting KSU & Mizzou in the next decade and I'd love to see KU & ISU on the schedule. Let's not forget the Oklahoma schools although we lost to OSU in the Alamo Bowl.

ASU & UA are two schools I want to beat the most at this point. I really enjoyed that win on the football field e in Tempe this season and recently in MBB in China. As the Rich Rod offensive magic fades away from UA, it might be easier to hate UA in football over time and I enjoyed those wins over UA in Boulder....it's time for a win in Tucson for once. I'm not feeling Utah as a rival at this point because in many ways we are alike. I have noticed Ute fans don't like ASU either and have one intense regional rival in BYU while we have Nebraska.

I couldn't have been any happier with basketball and while Tad Boyle's winning teams helps out, I like the conference scheduling format the most because it's easy to follow. You can say it's Arizona, Washington, Oregon, Bay Area, SoCal, and Utah week.

Before coming to a Colorado as a kid in the summer of 1987, I was a Texas/Oklahoma kid so in some ways I miss the Big 12 but I understand the conference move was a necessary thing for the long term survival of the football program even if the football is a downgrade from the Big 12.
 
Buffsrock85 said:
Do people spend lots of non vacation time other places? I guess if you travel for work all the time. My problem is every time I go on vacation I go to Europe, Hawaii, Vancouver, Seattle etc and so then I come home to brown Colorado in the winter with all the chain restaurants and it’s very bland lol. Colorado is fine, it’s home, for now.
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Where do you live? Highlands Ranch? Loan Tree?
 
Buffsrock85 said:
Do people spend lots of non vacation time other places? I guess if you travel for work all the time. My problem is every time I go on vacation I go to Europe, Hawaii, Vancouver, Seattle etc and so then I come home to brown Colorado in the winter with all the chain restaurants and it’s very bland lol. Colorado is fine, it’s home, for now.
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chain restaurants and bland describes Omaha to a “T”. Especially once you are west of a particular street. My wife’s aunt and uncle that lived in Lone Tree for 30 years have settled right in the middle of this area when they moved back to Omaha a few years ago.
 
I love the Pac-12.

I have issues with the conference leadership, both with Scott and the university presidents who give his marching orders and set the vision.

I also think we could use an infusion of a couple universities that disrupt the culture a bit by caring more than is healthy about winning in football and making money through athletics.
 
manhattanbuf said:
Where do you live? Highlands Ranch? Loan Tree?
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god no, I hate south of Denver, it’s a nightmare. There’s some nice areas but man traffic is a nightmare down there! I live in Frederick. Me and my wife enjoy the quiet up here, it’s much more laid back and it’s a quick easy drive into Boulder too.
 
TSchekler said:
Have you lived anywhere else? Do you have family or in laws anywhere else where you’ve spent significant time visiting and not necessarily in a vacation mindset? And lolololololol on “Brown Colorado” in the winter comment when you use a city like Seattle as a better place to be.
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No, I’ve lived here all 34 years which is probably why I’m bored with it lol. I’m not saying Seattle is less brown or less crowded. I’m saying I enjoy what they have to offer more than Denver, but that’s probably because it’s different. I’d never live in downtown Seattle though, I’d probably move either more east towards Idaho where it’s more sunny or more north towards Vancouver, like Port Townsend. Somewhere where there’s an ocean, seafood, it’s quiet and cold is like 35 degrees lol.
 
Buffsrock85 said:
god no, I hate south of Denver, it’s a nightmare. There’s some nice areas but man traffic is a nightmare down there! I live in Frederick. Me and my wife enjoy the quiet up here, it’s much more laid back and it’s a quick easy drive into Boulder too.
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Where you live is basically the same as those places 30 years ago. I can see why you have a negative impression of Colorado. You live in an ugh suburb.
 
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