If they go to a 14 game season, 11 game conference schedules will be easy. Why do you think the SEC and B1G are pushing for a 14 game season?
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Pac-12 expansion is now inevitable
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If they go to a 14 game season, 11 game conference schedules will be easy. Why do you think the SEC and B1G are pushing for a 14 game season?
They are pushing for a 14-week season that includes 2 bye weeks, not a 14-game schedule.
That's news to me, but even if so, the 14 game regular season is bound to happen eventually.
I agree, but only as the "potential" for 14 games just as we have that for 13 potential non-bowl/playoff games now if a team makes the conference championship game. But I think that additional one will be to add a semi-final round for the conference championship of a 16-team conference.
Thinking in terms of media value.
14 weeks with 2 bye weeks gives a week more programming (still plenty of games to fit within the broadcast windows and then some).
Semi-final rounds would be worth a fortune. Much more than an extra week of regular games would be worth to a network.
Cal or SoCal? @ buffnik. Re: one guaranteed game.
California. 1 home/ 1 away with two teams from the Cali Pod made up of UCLA, USC, Cal and Stanford. Could be 2 straight years going to the Bay Area followed by 2 straight years going to LA. Or 1 SF / 1 LA by mismatching the schedule travel partners within the pods (i.e., you get Stanford/USC or you get Cal/UCLA for a 2-year stretch instead of UCLA/USC or Cal/Stanford).
I think having no game in SoCal every year would be tough on recruiting for CU. It's 10x or so the size in terms of recruiting I'd guess. We've been strong in NorCal thanks to this staffs ties but SoCal is where most of the talent is.
Play in SoCal at least once every other year, and in the state of California every year. Should be fine recruiting with that.
Strongly disagree. That would be harder to sell to Mom's. Road trip to Berkeley from the inland empire is undoable for your basic family there. Tempe is much easier.
Good thing in the pod system we would be playing in Tempe every other year as well.
But not LA. My point is NorCal is not a close to home game for SoCsl.
I guess, every time I think about this, I can't imagine a scenario where the AZ schools aren't trying to kill expansion with fire.
Any way you slice it, expansion greatly reduces their exposure in CA, which is much more important to them than us, considering history.
Any way you slice it, expansion greatly reduces their exposure in CA, which is much more important to them than us, considering history.
http://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2016/...ll-big-12-expansion-bob-bowlsby-pro-expansion
this might not be the best place to put this link but it sounds like Big 12 commish will recommend expansion today-
this might not be the best place to put this link but it sounds like Big 12 commish will recommend expansion today-
Buffenuf
massive tool
1++++ THIS!
If you want better football games MAKE those damned SEC teams actually play other Power Five teams on a "home and home" basis, instead of allowing them to schedule a bunch of rummy teams, always at home!
Poor goats.
I think it's cute that you think this has anything to do with student athletes.
We have basketball players playing 30+ games per year with a lot more travel and time away from classes. Oh, and it's over two semesters to boot. Nobody is crying over that. Nobody is going to cry about two extra games per year in football, especially when it means an extra couple million for each school.
Football is slightly different than basketball. It's why the NFL will never expand to 18 games, IMO. Then again, the NCAA student athletes don't really have a union or fight the will of the people in power.
Yep. They are talking about maybe moving basketball into a single semester, though. But that has nothing to do with academics and everything to do with increasing revenue by not competing with football season for the non-conference and pushing the "in season" calendar for conference networks from 7 months (Sep-Mar) to 8+ months by having basketball end later.
football is different, indeed. it takes a much different toll on the body. nba players play 82 regular season games. college kids play less than half that.
nfl players play 16 regular season games and our college players are at 12.
so our student athletes in football are playing much closer to a pro schedule in a much more physically demanding and dangerous game.
this is not apples to apples.
plus, the contact damage that a typical college 23 year football player (who has a much more mature physique) can do relative to an 18 year old still developing freshmen in football is nothing at all like what happens in basketball. nothing at all.
nfl players play 16 regular season games and our college players are at 12.
so our student athletes in football are playing much closer to a pro schedule in a much more physically demanding and dangerous game.
this is not apples to apples.
plus, the contact damage that a typical college 23 year football player (who has a much more mature physique) can do relative to an 18 year old still developing freshmen in football is nothing at all like what happens in basketball. nothing at all.
I think the 12 + conference semifinals + conference final/national quarterfinal + national semifinal + national final would be a perfect model for 4 16 team conferences.
For example, a CU schedule could look like:
1 OOC SEC
1 OOC Big16
1 OOC ACC
9 Pac16 (3 Mountain pod, 2 PNW pod, 2 Cali Pod, 2 MidWest pod)
(Game 13) Mountain Pod Winner vs Cali Pod Winner and PNW Pod Winner vs MidWest Pod Winner (at team's location with best record)
(Game 14) Game 1 Winner vs Game 2 Winner for Conference title/National Quarter Final (Conference Title Game location)
(Game 15) Pac16 winner vs Big16 Winner for National Semi Final (Rose Bowl)
(Game 16) National Final (Rotating bowl location)
For example, a CU schedule could look like:
1 OOC SEC
1 OOC Big16
1 OOC ACC
9 Pac16 (3 Mountain pod, 2 PNW pod, 2 Cali Pod, 2 MidWest pod)
(Game 13) Mountain Pod Winner vs Cali Pod Winner and PNW Pod Winner vs MidWest Pod Winner (at team's location with best record)
(Game 14) Game 1 Winner vs Game 2 Winner for Conference title/National Quarter Final (Conference Title Game location)
(Game 15) Pac16 winner vs Big16 Winner for National Semi Final (Rose Bowl)
(Game 16) National Final (Rotating bowl location)
This would be ideal... Hence the reason it probably won't happen.
