Because those aren't the tier 1 nationally televised time slots on the big networks. Noon, 330 and 7:30pm ET
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Pac-12 hires MGM's George Kliavkoff to replace Larry Scott as commissioner
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thank you -- that's a really good point. I was dubious over the importance of DTV to the Pac12, but this may be the most relevant point about why it is that I've encountered.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Ah ok. Seems easily fixable to me, the networks manage to televise a thousand overlapping games during March Madness but I suppose that’s an issue with the media deals then.
Well, yeah, in March Madness, they have overlapping games (staggered) on CBS, TruTV, TNT, and TBS. College football doing that would be like having overlapping games on Fox, FS1, and FS2, or ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, which is currently how it's set up for the most part.
This discussion is talking about the fact that the Noon ET big network (Fox/ABC) nationally televised time slot is a non starter for Pac 12 games (both conference, individual programs and the networks agree) because nobody out West is tuning in that early for the conference's best matchup.
JFC, why is this so hard to understand? Networks want evening games and are willing to pay for them. Nobody is going to start playing a game at 10:00 p.m., or even 9:00 p.m., which leaves teams on the west coast as the only options for providing this content. The late games aren't aired on Pac 12, they are usually on an ESPN network or FS1.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
The Big Noon Kickoff I get, that’s a challenge, but I’d much rather see the PAC12 playing 11 or 12:00 games on FS1 than 8:00pm games on Pac12.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Pac12 after dark is on Pac12 is it not? And are you saying you like the 8pm PT kickoffs because we’re the only conference who can fill that 11pm ET slot?
Pac 12 after dark is a talk show, no? What I'm saying is that you had better get used to 8:30 p.m. MT games because that's where the TV people who pay the bills want the games. Here's a link to last season's TV schedule, and here's a representative Saturday:
The fact is that those 7:00 and 7:30 p.m. games were only on national networks because they didn't have to compete with other games from other conferences.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
And what I’m saying is that the TV people want them in those slots, not because of time zones but because no one on the east coast gives a s**t about Pac12 football. At 11pm eastern they don’t have to compete with other games, they can compete with COPS reruns and My 600lb Life.
Because playing at noon in Tempe in 115 degrees is awesome!
Are you seriously trying to argue that FoxSports and ESPN don't want college football content that begins after 9:00 p.m. eastern? That what they really want is to show reruns of cornhole championships? I guarantee that if they couldn't sell ads for those games, they wouldn't schedule them. All your whining is never going to change the fact that the sports networks want to air CFB games in the evening and that west coast teams are the only ones that can provide that programming.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
No, I’m arguing that FoxSports and ESPN probably realize that:
1) People on the east coast don’t give a s**t about Pac12 football, and
2) They’re not going to get big ratings for a football game that kicks off after 10pm
So might as well throw Pac12 on super late and if that outperforms cornhole on the west coast then great.
The money they pay to show those games seems to undermine your argument.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
They’re paying a lot more to the conferences whose games they are not sticking in 10pm ET slots.
Well, two of them.
UT Austin in August Down on the artificial turf felt like that.
Kliavkoff was on Finebaum today and gave a great interview. He was straightforward and transparent on the Pac12's failings, didn't sugarcoat it. Here's a clip of his take on NIL
He was dead man walking once the Presidents rejected the ESPN Fox deal and teams started leaving. The conference just unraveled. Years of poor leadership on the Presidents side and Larry Scott side led to the implosion.