Yup. What does a play off team look like? Look at what Alabama did to a ~top 35 aTm. Look at what Notre Dame did to Stanford.It is more than just SOS when ranking teams. How you beat teams also matters.
Yup. What does a play off team look like? Look at what Alabama did to a ~top 35 aTm. Look at what Notre Dame did to Stanford.It is more than just SOS when ranking teams. How you beat teams also matters.
option 1: we lose a game, discussion irrelevant.
option 2: we win all the games, discussion irrelevant because there is no way an undefeated P12 champ isn't in the playoff.
Conclusion: Discussion remains silly. ESPN is stupid. (2d post in this thread already, arggh)
Yup. What does a play off team look like? Look at what Alabama did to a ~top 35 aTm. Look at what Notre Dame did to Stanford.
Stanford out gained Utah, but had 4 turnover. Notre Dame out gained Stanford 550-229 yards, and by more than 2 yards per play.I was more impressed with what Utah did to Stanford tbh
SOR and game control are popular with Commitee.It is more than just SOS when ranking teams. How you beat teams also matters.
Stanford out gained Utah, but had 4 turnover. Notre Dame out gained Stanford 550-229 yards, and by more than 2 yards per play.
It would be a very unusual season if we had 2 undefeated teams, let alone 3 or 4.Undefeated ND
Undefeated Clemson
Undefeated tOSU
Undefeated UGA (beats Bama by late FG)
One loss Bama.
Pick four.
Undefeated ND
Undefeated Clemson
Undefeated tOSU
Undefeated UGA (beats Bama by late FG)
One loss Bama.
Pick four.
This would almost assuredly result in the expansion to 6 CFP teams the following season. All of those programs have enough pull and would raise enough hell to ensure it never happens again.Undefeated ND
Undefeated Clemson
Undefeated tOSU
Undefeated UGA (beats Bama by late FG)
One loss Bama.
Pick four.
Break out the torches and pitchforks......that would be ugly.Undefeated ND
Undefeated Clemson
Undefeated tOSU
Undefeated UGA (beats Bama by late FG)
One loss Bama.
Pick four.
Clemson won't be undefeated.There should only be three undefeated teams at the end of the year, Bama/Georgia, Notre Dame and Clemson. I just don't see a Big-10 team making it through unscathed there is no way Colorado goes undefeated. So the last spot will come down to a on loss Big-10 team, one loss Big-12 team and maybe a one loss Washington.
Clemson won't be undefeated.
I'm rooting for Georgia, because of all the SEC garbage, I consider them the least of the garbage (and their school is ranked pretty well academically). But I'm not going to disagree with your prognosis. In fact, i do hope at some point UGA loses...then beats Bama in the CCG.I don't think Georgia will be either. In fact, I think UGA loses Saturday in Baton Rouge.
I'm rooting for Georgia, because of all the SEC garbage, I consider them the least of the garbage (and their school is ranked pretty well academically). But I'm not going to disagree with your prognosis. In fact, i do hope at some point UGA loses...then beats Bama in the CCG.
Alamo Bowl is preferable to the Holiday, just not if the Alamo Bowl opponent is OSU. If it’s OU, TCU, UT, or WVU, I’m all for it
Alabama will be undefeated, unless hell freezes over. Clemson is getting better every week I've seen them, so they are a good bet as well. I'm not sure Blowhio State will be, they should've dropped one already, they didn't though. Georgia, I just don't know?
Clemson getting better every week? Their last game was good, and the one immediately prior was awful. They should have lost to Syracuse. Didn’t lead until the final seconds.
Yeah no kidding. Also, look at what ND did to Ball State and Vandy. I mean, crush everyone and leave no doubt about who you are as a team right?Yup. What does a play off team look like? Look at what Alabama did to a ~top 35 aTm. Look at what Notre Dame did to Stanford.
Sorry- it was meant as a reply to Luko.Not sure if that was supposed to be a response to me-My point was more they took both Alabama and Georgia last year because there wasn't a viable alternative. They're not doing that again if they don't have to........regardless of what ESPN's so-called "playoff expert" Heather Dinich says..
I am with you on every point except the last one. An undefeated Notre Dame would get a spot before CU or West Virginia.http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24934752/not-all-undefeated-records-created-equal
Here's the link-SIAP. Let me say a couple things with it. FPI is a joke, and goofy computer indexes like it don't make up for watching teams play. There are also millions of these types of things out there nowadays-realtimerpi.com has us winning every remaining game but one.....at Washington. Two, the only way two SEC teams get in again are if the committee feels they don't have any other choice-a one loss SEC runner-up (let's say its Georgia) isn't getting in over Washington, Oklahoma, or Texas (if any of the three wins out) or us at 13-0 or 12-1 if we get there. Georgia's OOC (other than the rivalry game they coo about having to play every year) is a joke-Austin Peay (FCS opponent), UMass (glorified FCS opponent), and Middle Tennessee. Same thing with Alabama's-Arkansas State (Sun Belt team), ULaLa (Sun Belt team), The Citadel (FCS opponent), and Louisville at a neutral site (our win over Nebraska looks better).Three, she says its "highly unlikely" an undefeated Notre Dame misses out on the CFP-If Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and either us or West Virginia wins out, Notre Dame misses the playoff.
Uhh yeah, I know. It's not like we haven't seen the SEC get 2 regardless.Alabama and Georgia can't both be undefeated the day the CFP gets finalized. If they're both 12-0 at the end of the regular season, they'll play for the SEC championship.....;
Work in progress maybe, they can match anyone talent wise, especially on D. Young qb, takes time.Clemson getting better every week? Their last game was good, and the one immediately prior was awful. They should have lost to Syracuse. Didn’t lead until the final seconds.
It seems like people have forgotten what the CFP committee is like- they make this **** up as they go. Don't you remember every single explanation by the committee last year? The criteria seemed to change weekly. They could have justified a 10-2 Big10 champ Ohio State over Bama if they had wanted to, but they decided having two SEC teams meant more than even going to your conference championship. Hell- Wisconsin also only lost one game all year and it was in their conference championship. if they had sat at home that weekend like Alabama did they would have been 12-0. All I'm saying is, don't be shocked when two SEC teams make it again this year.Okay here's a hypothetical-let's say Alabama and two of Ohio State, Clemson, and Notre Dame finish undefeated. Then, let's say Georgia goes into the SEC championship game at 12-0 and then loses to Alabama (doesn't really matter how IMO), and let's say we finish the regular season 11-1 (with the loss coming next week at Washington) and then win the Pac 12 championship. You can switch us out for West Virginia in this scenario. Unless they don't have another viable option-they're not taking two SEC teams. The CFP took two teams from the SEC last year because they HAD to.
It seems like people have forgotten what the CFP committee is like- they make this **** up as they go. Don't you remember every single explanation by the committee last year? The criteria seemed to change weekly. They could have justified a 10-2 Big10 champ Ohio State over Bama if they had wanted to, but they decided having two SEC teams meant more than even going to your conference championship. Hell- Wisconsin also only lost one game all year and it was in their conference championship. if they had sat at home that weekend like Alabama did they would have been 12-0. All I'm saying is, don't be shocked when two SEC teams make it again this year.
Uhh yeah, I know. It's not like we haven't seen the SEC get 2 regardless.
I am with you on every point except the last one. An undefeated Notre Dame would get a spot before CU or West Virginia.