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Post Arizona @ CU Game thread (Relevant)

Stomping on a hornet's nest would apparently draw less attention than saying that while storming against this Arizona team is perhaps a bit over the top, one would gladly accept students rushing every game if it meant sold out student sections. Seriously, WTF?
 
CVilleBuff said:
Some lecture:



God forbid anyone have a differing opinion. It's not like I questioned a decision of Tad. We all know the Allbuffs sentence for that is 25 to life.
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You've been all over yourself to show how your opinion is better than mine, yet now you use this defense?

weak
 
Buffnik said:
My impression is that there's a professional respect among Miller, Tad and Larry K. Similar philosophies on how to run a program and similar schemes that focus on defense & rebounding. They're all generally very complimentary of one another after they play.
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That's been my impression, as well as that they hate Altman with a fiery passion.
 
Buffnik said:
I'm kind of old school conservative on this by nature. I'm not a "storm the court" guy. When I played, I wasn't someone who got emotional even if I hit a game winning shot. Some people would say that comes off as arrogant, but where it comes from is total expectation that the team would win, shot would go in, etc. Why go crazy celebrating what you expected to happen?

But I have come to accept that not everyone is as pathological on this as I am. There will be games when students rush the court (or field) after a win. Cool. As long as they don't cause an injury or incident with the opposing team, I'm on board with letting them have their fun.

In fact, I submit that we should take it to the next level. I don't want to be splitting hairs on when it's appropriate to rush and when it's not. So just make it a CU tradition for all sports. When the Buffs win, students rush the court (or field) to celebrate with the team. Make it a CU thing. Make people hate us for it. Make it something that gets bitched about on other message boards. Make it something so annoying that the media folks write articles about it, talk about it on Pac-12 Network, ESPN, FS1, and CBSSN. Make it something that opposing coaches bitch about. Make it something that's in the heads of opposing players who give quotes before playing CU that they want to prevent a rush.

And give me 50 students who earned a trip to Vegas rushing the court after every Pac-12 Tourney win, along with all other fans who make the trip.

We are CU fans... the classless assholes who rush after ever ****ing win!

This needs to happen.
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I submit that back in the mid-late 2000s CU students already took field rushing in football to new heights (depths?). Stormed after beating CSU in 2005 and after becoming bowl eligible in 2004. Not to mention Oklahoma, Nebraska, West Virginia, etc. Also Kansas in 2009 when they were ranked (but still Kansas football).
There's precedent here.
 
StormTrooper said:
I submit that back in the mid-late 2000s CU students already took field rushing in football to new heights (depths?). Stormed after beating CSU in 2005 and after becoming bowl eligible in 2004. Not to mention Oklahoma, Nebraska, West Virginia, etc. Also Kansas in 2009 when they were ranked (but still Kansas football).
There's precedent here.
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Yep.

Only thing that has to be part of this is that security has to be able to give time and a path for the opponent and officials to get off the court/field. Don't want a serious incident to spoil the fun.
 
I've always kind of liked Sean Miller ... same way I tend to like Bill Self. Both have been largely gracious to us in both victory and defeat (although in the latter case that's only happened once under Tad).

Sean actually seemed sheepish the day after the Chen disallowed 3 pointer ... like he was pretty sure they got away with one (of course he couldn't come out and say so). And I like his coaching style ... look at the winning streak they went on after tearing his players a new one after the loss to Oregon. I kind of wish Tad would do more of that when it's called for.
 
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Alfred91 said:
LOL

Fair enough - let me rephrase:

In situations such as these, young people should be allowed to partake in their natural youthful exuberance without being tsked by the more jaded sports fan.

Better?
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I actually have no issue with rushing the court for big wins. Just saying the students have had a tendency to take it to ridiculous extremes in the past, which has NOTHING to do with being jaded.
 
Buffnik said:
My impression is that there's a professional respect among Miller, Tad and Larry K. Similar philosophies on how to run a program and similar schemes that focus on defense & rebounding. They're all generally very complimentary of one another after they play.
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You're right about that. Miller has always been complimentary of CU, even if his Jiffy Lube employee Cat fans haven't been.
 
The security at CU has always been a joke. Some of the employees that were court side 20 years ago are still in their positions court side today.

That said, as far as I know, nobody got hurt last night. That was not the case when Iowa State students stormed the court and the beat writer for the Des Moines Register ended up with a compound fracture of his leg. His response was "let the students have fun". I went to high school with him, so he isn't young. He didn't blame security or the students. Said he knew it was coming, but didn't get out of there fast enough.

I was happy to see so many students in attendance and have a reason to storm the court.
 
CBS sports just ran a segment about rushing the court. They blasted CU events staff for not having security to protect the other team, or at least event staff in place to escort them to the locker room.

I was ticked at first, but there seems to be a valid point (player safety).

Anyone else think this gets discussed in the league office?

P.S. Just rewatched the end game replay. I think it was Tarz that stands looking at the basket and then just leisurely walks towards the bench. He's bumped twice on the way. That player could have moved faster, imo.
 
CVilleBuff said:
Won't be losing any sleep over "Buff Pride 88" getting his panties in a wad over questioning court storming
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Anyone who loses any sleep due to this board should really reconsider participating in anything outside of coloring books.
 
I am a die hard U of A fan and want to respond to a couple things.

U of A has been rushed 11 out of the last 13 away losses that it has suffered, just think about that. no one else gets rushed so its really not a big deal. U of A is the only team that deals with it.

About 10 years ago, a Tucson high school basketball player who had a full ride to Stanford was almost killed when his high school rushed the court in a rivalry game, Tucson is a small place with not too many college BBall players coming out of it so this has made a lasting impact on the city.

I am not saying that there is a conspiracy against U of A basketball when it comes to the refs, but in the pac-12 tournament championship game against UCLA ed rush did put a bounty on Couch Miller, and then ended up quitting right after that, and last year when U of Clinched the Pac-12 regular season championship outright, you would of thought that Larry Scott would have been in attendance but he was at some other meaningless conference game. So AZ fans have soured from him. Did you see the technical foul that they called on him? the first half the officiating was god awful in one direction.

And seriously, i cant tell you how many people on here are calling miller a "whiny bitch", watch the video and you cant honestly say he is acting like that.

The only reason i am here is because i don't dislike your fan-base like UCLA, ASU, OU. And every team on the planet has terrible fans, i hate that people dont understand that and get all pissy when they talk crap. By and large AZ fan base is better than most.
 
bellamatt said:
I am a die hard U of A fan and want to respond to a couple things.

U of A has been rushed 11 out of the last 13 away losses that it has suffered, just think about that. no one else gets rushed so its really not a big deal. U of A is the only team that deals with it.

About 10 years ago, a Tucson high school basketball player who had a full ride to Stanford was almost killed when his high school rushed the court in a rivalry game, Tucson is a small place with not too many college BBall players coming out of it so this has made a lasting impact on the city.

I am not saying that there is a conspiracy against U of A basketball when it comes to the refs, but in the pac-12 tournament championship game against UCLA ed rush did put a bounty on Couch Miller, and then ended up quitting right after that, and last year when U of Clinched the Pac-12 regular season championship outright, you would of thought that Larry Scott would have been in attendance but he was at some other meaningless conference game. So AZ fans have soured from him. Did you see the technical foul that they called on him? the first half the officiating was god awful in one direction.

And seriously, i cant tell you how many people on here are calling miller a "whiny bitch", watch the video and you cant honestly say he is acting like that.

The only reason i am here is because i don't dislike your fan-base like UCLA, ASU, OU. And every team on the planet has terrible fans, i hate that people dont understand that and get all pissy when they talk crap. By and large AZ fan base is better than most.
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So, Larry should be in attendance at EVERY game that a team MIGHT clinch a season title? What if they lost, is he mandated to go to the next one?

As for Miller being a whiny bitch, I re watched the game at work tonight. He was throwing his arms in the air and yelling at the refs WHEN AZ SCORED. Face it, your coach whines. A LOT.
 
Arizona is among the top four basketball schools with Wildcats as a mascot, and stands alone as the best wildcat basketball program that adopts Bear Down as a rally cry.

Mad respect to Arizona basketball for being among twelve basketball programs in the conference of champions.
 
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bellamatt said:
I am a die hard U of A fan and want to respond to a couple things.

U of A has been rushed 11 out of the last 13 away losses that it has suffered, just think about that. no one else gets rushed so its really not a big deal. U of A is the only team that deals with it.

About 10 years ago, a Tucson high school basketball player who had a full ride to Stanford was almost killed when his high school rushed the court in a rivalry game, Tucson is a small place with not too many college BBall players coming out of it so this has made a lasting impact on the city.

I am not saying that there is a conspiracy against U of A basketball when it comes to the refs, but in the pac-12 tournament championship game against UCLA ed rush did put a bounty on Couch Miller, and then ended up quitting right after that, and last year when U of Clinched the Pac-12 regular season championship outright, you would of thought that Larry Scott would have been in attendance but he was at some other meaningless conference game. So AZ fans have soured from him. Did you see the technical foul that they called on him? the first half the officiating was god awful in one direction.

And seriously, i cant tell you how many people on here are calling miller a "whiny bitch", watch the video and you cant honestly say he is acting like that.

The only reason i am here is because i don't dislike your fan-base like UCLA, ASU, OU. And every team on the planet has terrible fans, i hate that people dont understand that and get all pissy when they talk crap. By and large AZ fan base is better than most.
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Yeah I have met a bunch of Arizona fans and know quite a few from around Denver and they are usually great. It is nice to find a fan base in the pac 12 that actually cares and knows college basketball too but there is a very vocal amount of Arizona fans that are way too obnoxious. It just sticks out a lot more because there are so many Arizona bball fans because of their top tier status.
 
bellamatt said:
I am a die hard U of A fan and want to respond to a couple things.

U of A has been rushed 11 out of the last 13 away losses that it has suffered, just think about that. no one else gets rushed so its really not a big deal. U of A is the only team that deals with it.

About 10 years ago, a Tucson high school basketball player who had a full ride to Stanford was almost killed when his high school rushed the court in a rivalry game, Tucson is a small place with not too many college BBall players coming out of it so this has made a lasting impact on the city.

I am not saying that there is a conspiracy against U of A basketball when it comes to the refs, but in the pac-12 tournament championship game against UCLA ed rush did put a bounty on Couch Miller, and then ended up quitting right after that, and last year when U of Clinched the Pac-12 regular season championship outright, you would of thought that Larry Scott would have been in attendance but he was at some other meaningless conference game. So AZ fans have soured from him. Did you see the technical foul that they called on him? the first half the officiating was god awful in one direction.

And seriously, i cant tell you how many people on here are calling miller a "whiny bitch", watch the video and you cant honestly say he is acting like that.

The only reason i am here is because i don't dislike your fan-base like UCLA, ASU, OU. And every team on the planet has terrible fans, i hate that people dont understand that and get all pissy when they talk crap. By and large AZ fan base is better than most.
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Take it as a complement that people think it's a big deal beating your team. Personally, I expected us to win and was disappointed we didn't win by double digits. Also, there isn't a classier coach in the Pac than Tad Boyle. Miller should take notes.
 
Sean Miller is a tremendous coach. Who is a whiny bitch. He must have gone to the coach K school of whiny bitching at the refs.
 
bellamatt said:
I am a die hard U of A fan and want to respond to a couple things.

U of A has been rushed 11 out of the last 13 away losses that it has suffered, just think about that. no one else gets rushed so its really not a big deal. U of A is the only team that deals with it.

About 10 years ago, a Tucson high school basketball player who had a full ride to Stanford was almost killed when his high school rushed the court in a rivalry game, Tucson is a small place with not too many college BBall players coming out of it so this has made a lasting impact on the city.

I am not saying that there is a conspiracy against U of A basketball when it comes to the refs, but in the pac-12 tournament championship game against UCLA ed rush did put a bounty on Couch Miller, and then ended up quitting right after that, and last year when U of Clinched the Pac-12 regular season championship outright, you would of thought that Larry Scott would have been in attendance but he was at some other meaningless conference game. So AZ fans have soured from him. Did you see the technical foul that they called on him? the first half the officiating was god awful in one direction.

And seriously, i cant tell you how many people on here are calling miller a "whiny bitch", watch the video and you cant honestly say he is acting like that.

The only reason i am here is because i don't dislike your fan-base like UCLA, ASU, OU. And every team on the planet has terrible fans, i hate that people dont understand that and get all pissy when they talk crap. By and large AZ fan base is better than most.
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First of all, the pussy cats are not the only team that gets the court rushed on. I'm not sure where that idea comes from.

Second, after having attended the game and having re-watched the game twice now on tv, I CAN definitively conclude that Miller is in fact a whiny bitch.
 
bellamatt said:
I am a die hard U of A fan and want to respond to a couple things.

U of A has been rushed 11 out of the last 13 away losses that it has suffered, just think about that. no one else gets rushed so its really not a big deal. U of A is the only team that deals with it.

About 10 years ago, a Tucson high school basketball player who had a full ride to Stanford was almost killed when his high school rushed the court in a rivalry game, Tucson is a small place with not too many college BBall players coming out of it so this has made a lasting impact on the city.

I am not saying that there is a conspiracy against U of A basketball when it comes to the refs, but in the pac-12 tournament championship game against UCLA ed rush did put a bounty on Couch Miller, and then ended up quitting right after that, and last year when U of Clinched the Pac-12 regular season championship outright, you would of thought that Larry Scott would have been in attendance but he was at some other meaningless conference game. So AZ fans have soured from him. Did you see the technical foul that they called on him? the first half the officiating was god awful in one direction.

And seriously, i cant tell you how many people on here are calling miller a "whiny bitch", watch the video and you cant honestly say he is acting like that.

The only reason i am here is because i don't dislike your fan-base like UCLA, ASU, OU. And every team on the planet has terrible fans, i hate that people dont understand that and get all pissy when they talk crap. By and large AZ fan base is better than most.
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Welcome to the board. Hope you stick around and offer some good insight when we play eachother.

Now. U of A gets rushed because students see it as a big deal when their team beats you. This makes sense as U of A tends to be pretty damn good. Not sure why everyone is all riled up when it seems this would be a showing of respect in a way.

With respect to the refs, IMO, they were nothing but typical Pac12 refs. Inconsistent. Poor Judgement. Oblivious. Quick to whistle. Maybe U of A gets the best crews more often than not due to their stature as a program. The Pac12 would have an interest in making sure one of its best team gets fair refs. However this is the kind of garbage we deal with night in and night out so I can't say I feel bad for you. Miller's technical was justified. 1 he followed the ref a decent way from his bench and he was screaming at him. If he swore at all, that's an automatic T, every time.

Also Miller does whine. He does complain. He does scream. That says nothing about how good of a coach he is, because he is a very good one. He just likes to get his way, and when he doesnt, he makes sure the refs or his players hear about it.

On your comment about U of A fans being better than most, I will disagree. I have interacted with lots of fan from opposing teams at all of the Pac12 tournaments to date. In those situations, I have found Utah Fans to probably be "better than most"
 
I have to admit I understood why Miller was pissed when he got T'd. and I think Tad and any CU fan would've been too. I think it was GK who just about dislocated an AZ player's shoulder on that steel and breakaway basket. I was a bit, pleasantly, surprised when they didn't call a foul.
 
bellamatt said:
By and large AZ fan base is better than most.
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YouTube highly disagrees with you. Maybe if you only counted your geriatric fans.

Your fans sounds like Patriot fans. Don't come to a CU site and say that there is possibly a conspiracy against your team when we have evidence that your team beat us in a bull **** way just a few short years ago. And you're always on top on the league. Huge conspiracy that Larry Scott would hold down the best team in the league year after year. Seriously, the religion forum is where we go with our persecution complex. You might need a counselor with yours though.

You just sound silly and you're not helping the Bearcats having good fans argument.
 
TSchekler said:
Were you there in 2006 when we rushed the field after beating Iowa State and/or TTU? Talk about a low point in my athletic attending career in college.
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Low point, really? We won those games. I guess that was back when we thought we were going to be good again soon.
 
I'm working in PHX this week and the whole "concerned about students rushing the court" thing is getting a ton of media play here. It's abnormal how focused they are on this. I wonder if the ASU team might be a little intimidated by the possibility of getting crushed by the C-Unit...
 
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