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BB, as an addendum to your first point, don't forget they can't really drop ticket prices at Hughes any further in order to drive attendance (as, for instance, CU has done during the dark ages of the last few years).
I will be fascinated to see what the attendance numbers look like this season. Exciting new coach, lots hub bug around the stadium and supporting the team..... if they can't fill the stadium to +90% capacity every week, then there should be some big red flags about building a new stadium in general.
I would still like to see the argument that new stadium = increased revenue. Is that just based on increased attendance projections? What about increased operating costs?
I'll take a stab at this: Their current stadium is miles from campus. It doesn't provide for a very good game-day atmosphere. Parking is awful. Traffic is disastrous. It doesn't lend itself to football success. I can only think of one college football team that has had any kind of success in a system like that - Miami. And even they are a bad example because they can't get anybody into their stadium, either. A new stadium at CSU would be a focal point for the community. It would drive people to the campus itself, as opposed to a pasture in the middle of nowhere. They're trying to build a culture up there. It will take decades, but they have to start somewhere. Building an on-campus stadium is a logical first step. Now, having said that, I think they're going about it in the worst way possible, but that's their business. I'm very much in favor of the new stadium and I hope it does get built. It will increase revenues. How much of an increase remains to be seen.
Good points. I was giving CSU the benefit of the doubt in my post. At some point, sooner rather than later, money will be an issue. Cuts will have to be made somewhere.
I have no issue with their strategy because it is clear this may be their last shot, but they really should stop glossing over funding issues.
I saw the same, but I agree with your statement these seem more reasonable
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The College Football lifecycle is mature. Barriers to entry into the "big time" are limited. Captain Jack has a huge leadership challenge that defies the odds.
Programs that are successful now are in a better position to succeed than have-nots. A scandal damaged Penn State has a better chance to return to the ranks of a top 20 program than a have-not program like CSU.
The power structure has shifted to a point where networks provide more of the dollars and call more of the shots. The networks have committed billions of dollars in a finite number of BCS schools, and want these investments (ie these BCS schools) to succeed. When it comes to Network money, CSU has already missed the boat.
The NCAA and BCS are losing influence to conferences and network leadership.
So what does this mean for CSU?
The Rams are have nots in terms of network coverage, their conference and OOS schedule is devoid of compelling matchups and access to elite players and coaches.
The Rams are second movers, one step behind programs like Utah, Boise and TCU. The CSU Ramnation doesn't bring much to the table that identifies them as a valuable brand. No quirky blue turf. No recruiting hotbed. No billionaire investment angel who demands success. Low attendence. Fickle community that doesn't prioritize Ram football above other entertainment options.
Given this environment, CSU is in a pickle. A new campus football stadium is a token gesture, but will not create a level playing field.
They would be wise to consider "going Baylor" and unleashing a barrage of legislative anti-trust filings to force a regulatory solution. A coalition of fellow have-nots causing trouble in the courts will do more to create an opportunity for CSU to catch up with the pack than would back to back undefeated seasons. CSU would also be wise to move their football program to Denver. This is where the alumni are located, there is a bigger pool of fans, a bigger TV market, better access to airports and transportation, and closer proximity to more recruits. This combo would help turn network heads.
If CSU really wanted to "Be Bold", they are going to need to make a bigger bet than just a new 30K seat on-campus stadium.
Programs that are successful now are in a better position to succeed than have-nots. A scandal damaged Penn State has a better chance to return to the ranks of a top 20 program than a have-not program like CSU.
The power structure has shifted to a point where networks provide more of the dollars and call more of the shots. The networks have committed billions of dollars in a finite number of BCS schools, and want these investments (ie these BCS schools) to succeed. When it comes to Network money, CSU has already missed the boat.
The NCAA and BCS are losing influence to conferences and network leadership.
So what does this mean for CSU?
The Rams are have nots in terms of network coverage, their conference and OOS schedule is devoid of compelling matchups and access to elite players and coaches.
The Rams are second movers, one step behind programs like Utah, Boise and TCU. The CSU Ramnation doesn't bring much to the table that identifies them as a valuable brand. No quirky blue turf. No recruiting hotbed. No billionaire investment angel who demands success. Low attendence. Fickle community that doesn't prioritize Ram football above other entertainment options.
Given this environment, CSU is in a pickle. A new campus football stadium is a token gesture, but will not create a level playing field.
They would be wise to consider "going Baylor" and unleashing a barrage of legislative anti-trust filings to force a regulatory solution. A coalition of fellow have-nots causing trouble in the courts will do more to create an opportunity for CSU to catch up with the pack than would back to back undefeated seasons. CSU would also be wise to move their football program to Denver. This is where the alumni are located, there is a bigger pool of fans, a bigger TV market, better access to airports and transportation, and closer proximity to more recruits. This combo would help turn network heads.
If CSU really wanted to "Be Bold", they are going to need to make a bigger bet than just a new 30K seat on-campus stadium.
I love how a Nike contract that is surely less than a million dollars a year in actual cash to the university is going to make all the difference for CSU. Congrats, little bro, you got a Nike contract that is probably less than half the value of CU's Nike contract and about 1/50th the value of CU's annual TV revenues.
Don't forget San Diego State. Credit to Mike Bohn for getting that AD into shape so they would be able to grab that Big East invite when it came. And as much as the other CA schools will try to fight it, SDSU is one of the best fits for Pac-12 expansion if it happens.
Would they stay in the West where the market is saturated already or would Scott want to expand East? With how big TV markets are, I could see an eastern expansion, and not just a few states over but the far east.
I wouldn't be surprised if Scott has multiple expansion scenarios, including not expanding. The guy is so prepared, it wouldn't surprise me that if we do expand, we would get MORE media revenue than we are today.
I think that if the Pac-12 expands it will be a mix of defensive and offensive moves. We don't want major conference encroachment on our turf. Not just for recruiting, but for tv eyeballs.
That's why you have to look at SDSU and Boise State.
From there, if the number if 16 instead of 14, you have to take a look at UNLV and New Mexico to capture 2 more states within the footprint.
I can guarantee that right now the SEC is very nervous about the Big 12 potentially overlapping their geography in the south.
Two words: bigger shoulder pubes!
Gotta love the Elitist attitude from the CU fans. 10+ years of BCS money + recruiting has sure gotten you no where. A terrible football team that loses to Toledo and Montana State. A worse basketball program than CSU and a worse volleyball program. Looks like you have a lot to show for all that money.
Russell pays $500k. The Nike contract is going to be $1-2 million. So yeah, pretty big difference
Wait, who got past the first round again in the tournament?
You must be young. You kind of forget the good times now 10 years back. Thats ok.
It is funny that you are dissing CU's program considering in our WORST PERIOD EVEAAARR we still stomped you 2/3 of the time.
Wait who beat who last year?
You guys beat us by one after we missed I think 23 free throws, if CSU is better, then it is by a very small amount.
We didn't have our best player that game. With Hornung the game would have been over by half time
Tini. STFU. you are awful at this.
Uh huh I'm sure it would have.
Elitist attitude with relation to CSU? Absolutely! We own you in all time series in every freaking sport by a wide margin! Your crap school couldn't hold our jock. We have a national championship in football, numerous conference championships and top 25 finishes, and dozens upon dozens of All Americans and NFL draft picks. Our worse basketball program owns yours all time. Hate to break it to you, but CU athletics didn't begin in 2006. Go back about another 120 years. We are better at everything, and it is only going to get worse for CSU. If you take your green colored glasses off and objectively looks at the two schools athletic programs historically you will understand what we are talking about. But you won't, because you aren't willing to concede to actual cold hard facts.