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Recruiting rankings are becoming less important
- Thread starter Big Jim
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Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
You don’t have to trust the system. There are thousands whose jobs depend on the system (i.e. recruiting coordinators, scouts, etc.) who do.
Big Jim
WTF?
That is why I say analytics has destroyed society.
BuffTuff
Well-Known Member
Agree with this. The elite P5 schools should widen the talent gap by filling holes with studs (see Too Too and Alabama) while simultaneously losing quality depth to lower teams like CU.
in my view this should level the playing field of the CU type have nots while also making it virtually impossible for a have not to ever crack the elite top 10.
then out of the elite whoever can sustain less injuries and peak at the right time should win the playoff.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
Yes, visceral gut responses are always best. Preferably following superficial perusals of social media posts and the like.
It snowed in Hawaii last week, therefore the data that says most days in Hawaii are warm is suspect.
Spud Webb made the NBA all star game, therefore the data that says most NBA players are tall is suspect.
A zero-star recruit at a small directional school was drafted in the first round, therefore the data that says highly rated recruits are more likely to play in the NFL is suspect.
I get it, human brains are actually wired to believe anecdotal narratives over numerical analysis, but recognizing and overcoming this human limitation is a key component of advanced human intelligence.
Spud Webb made the NBA all star game, therefore the data that says most NBA players are tall is suspect.
A zero-star recruit at a small directional school was drafted in the first round, therefore the data that says highly rated recruits are more likely to play in the NFL is suspect.
I get it, human brains are actually wired to believe anecdotal narratives over numerical analysis, but recognizing and overcoming this human limitation is a key component of advanced human intelligence.
Do you believe some guys have the ability to play football at a higher level than others?
absolutely not! my religion taught me that God created all men equal.
Anecdotally, this is proving to be true
Stars don't matter right? Right?
An interesting viewpoint on how recruiting has evolved from someone who played big-time CFB
Greg came from a pretty well off family. They weren’t offering him the same bag that his teammates got.
That is why I say analytics has destroyed society.
This is an outlier to me. Since you brought up Spud, figured I'd put in he won the ****ing dunk contest one year. Nobody his size does that. Nique, Jordan, Carter, Dr. J, Dawkins were different animals.
CULifer
Well-Known Member
Then hire people like Alex Kelley as a commission-only OL talent evaluator and recruiter, get him to learn how to keep **** confidential, and pay him based on the OL's monthly performance metrics. We need to get a ****ing move on. We need to do something.
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we need to…
Step one: fire Rick George
Step two: fire Lance Carl
Step three: hire an AD knows what they’re doing and is not beholden to CU’s past
Step four: fire Karl Dorrell and his staff
Step five: hire a coach who knows what the hell they’re doing, esp. WRT recruiting and getting recruiters to work for Colorado
bigbang2
blindslighted
Step one Rick George ask you for donation to fund the rest of the items on your list.
o_robbie
I don't think before I post
A different thought…the haves absolutely blow people up like they currently do only worse and sell their recruits who will be 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart that they will still have decent stats/more playing time at a higher level of play than playing for CU and winning games against Cal and Oregon State.
So now CU is settling for the players from Alabama, Notre Dame, Georgia, Michigan who are 4th or worse on the depth chart. And honestly those kids probably aren’t a huge improvement over what we have as starters most of the time and even then they are difficult to obtain because they tend to transfer closer to home or they are injury risks.
Note•••if Lamb and Barnes ball out this season I’m willing to rethink this.
Also, as of now I think all of our losses in the portal are more damaging than we think. Unless we use those scholarships for better DL and OL depth I think the losses of WR1, DB1, S2 and Clayton (RB3??) hurt a lot in exchange for a development QB.
I disagree. I think the transfer players have are more likely to have a better attitude being a few years more mature. If they aren't, the likelihood the coaches know about his attitude problem is greater, they won't be caught off guard
Recruiting rankings are also highly correlated to funding, see below
Human brains are wired for tunnel vision. Not anecdotal vs numerical. You look at the recruiting rankings and see Georgia, bama, Clemson, and tOSU in the playoff every year and say well duh! You overlook teams like Texas, Tennessee and Miami who've been trash in recent years. He looks at the recruiting rankings and sees Iowa, Utah and Wisconsin going to the conference c c every other year and thinks to himself if they can do it, why not us?
The answer to our problems is found reconciling these data sets. We spend the 36th most on recruiting (honestly I'm surprised it isn't worse) but money spent on football recruiting as a percentage of our entire ad recruiting budget is 7th at 55%. We're prioritizing football like every school should (minus basketball schools). It's the harsh truth, want new endorsements volleyball team, how about a new lab chemist's? Then put money into football, Harvard of the west is a pipe dream and we already have a football natty, jocks-1 nerds-0. Our spot is massively inflated on that chart given we don't have sports those other schools do but that's part of the point. We spend more on recruiting for football than every other cu program combined, and football has the least to show for it. We dedicate money to football, as a percent of our entire ad budget, to such an extent it's better than all but 7 schools..? Our basketball team can be competitive, why not football?
600k a year isn't enough, that's half of Oregon's American airlines tab. I've seen articles that said cu has upped it past 700k since. Good start but Idk what the hell makes some of these teams so marginally average on paper yet successful on the field. If I had to guess, I'd say geolocation is part of it, as is eliminating wasteful spending. Idk Wtf software licensing and subscriptions entails but I wouldn't be happy hearing about cu paying 98k a year to hand out rivals subscriptions to recruits or giving every coach on staff every streaming service in existence just so they can be comfy in hotel rooms inbetween flights.
So George, why the **** are you complaining about players transferring due to nil? Sounds like buffs with a brand is worthless, huh? After that 100 million dollar investment, looks like the only ones getting screwed are the fans. Here's an idea, get 5 of your Texas rangers buddies to donate 15k each. Then find the sorriest most fresh faced job hungry football loving sob you can. Make him the recruiting director, give him a room in that nice new champions center to live in and tell him he's not allowed to leave for one whole year or until we have the best class in the nation. Makes more sense than a new sound system. **** you'd get more fans to come back by fixing the ****ing John's on the west side. Ffs every time we lose all the old man talks about is how long it took him to get to the horse trough we call pissers, I'm sure you can relate!? Start winning plz, kthanksbye