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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread - Drafted by the Cleveland Browns (NFL)

It really would have been a bad situation for him. No path to play other than injury and an offense designed for a completely different type of quarterback.
Sure but allow me to retort:
1) the Browns & their QB legacy, vs
2) Harbaugh

I think I'd go with the better organization and coach, but I don't begrudge Shedeur for believing in himself to outshine that QB room.
 
Sure but allow me to retort:
1) the Browns & their QB legacy, vs
2) Harbaugh

I think I'd go with the better organization and coach, but I don't begrudge Shedeur for believing in himself to outshine that QB room.
It's a reasonable debate for fans to have. But the Sanders family and circle of NFL friends has a lot of respect for the Ravens organization. So if that story is true, it would have been that Shedeur made the call despite the positive feelings about the ownership, culture, front office and coaching in Baltimore.
 
It's a reasonable debate for fans to have. But the Sanders family and circle of NFL friends has a lot of respect for the Ravens organization. So if that story is true, it would have been that Shedeur made the call despite the positive feelings about the ownership, culture, front office and coaching in Baltimore.
Definitely. I'm just sharing how I'd view it, from a non-player's perspective & seeing how the preseason played out.

Hoping he gets traded. Miami is a dumpster fire and I think that would be a better situation for him right now.
 
It's a reasonable debate for fans to have. But the Sanders family and circle of NFL friends has a lot of respect for the Ravens organization. So if that story is true, it would have been that Shedeur made the call despite the positive feelings about the ownership, culture, front office and coaching in Baltimore.
Ravens are all-in with Lamar. Lamar is 28 and a 2x NFL MVP. There’s no universe where Shedeur sees the field. He wants to play and wants to go somewhere he fits the scheme. Cleveland sucks but is still his best option for seeing the field in a system where we can cook.
 
Ravens are all-in with Lamar. Lamar is 28 and a 2x NFL MVP. There’s no universe where Shedeur sees the field. He wants to play and wants to go somewhere he fits the scheme. Cleveland sucks but is still his best option for seeing the field in a system where we can cook.

IMO, SS being a backup on a team with steady coaches/right system and great mentor where he could learn without pressure would be huge. I would prefer a team like the Ravens over the Dolphins. This is not the best scheme, but I think it will be a longer development for SS's and he can do it. Wherever he lands, SS's has to find his coach and mentor(s) and just look to learn. I'm sure SS's being through the draft and Cleveland experience will grow from it and his expectations will/have adjusted. I believe SS's is smart, coach-able and a gamer, thus there is an NFL coach/GM or owner with his eye on SS, if they have a good situation to develop him.

Sam Darnold went in the 1st round to the Jets, then Carolina, and looked to be a complete wash-out. He went to the 49s where: "Darnold described his time with the 49ers as a valuable learning experience, citing the team's meticulous preparation and the influence of players like Brock Purdy and head coach Kyle Shanahan in reshaping his approach to the game." Also, he credited sitting behind Baker Mayfield at Carolina the previous season. This year, Darnold signed a huge contract and is the Seahawk's starter. Although Drew Brees had one good season, his situation in San Diego with the shoulder injury and Philip Rivers drafted is where he reshaped his entire approach to the game--better preparation, better reads, minimize hits and negative plays, and get rid of the ball faster... I picked those two guys because they are pocket passers.

In today's NFL, all good teams in the NFL generally have good/great defenses. It seems like there are about three types of offenses: (1) teams with very athletic mobile QBs who move things with their legs, varied arm angles and throwing on the run, then the better/more stable the coaches, the better they seem to fare; (2) pocket passing teams are generally blessed with excellent coaches with Oline, running game, and play-makers for their system; most all these teams have established/very experienced coaches (Nix has this); and (3) there are certain teams in the perpetual wilderness where they flounder year after year, not matter who the new QB, GM, HC coach or other players they sign.

The Detroit Lions are a great pocket-passing example, they went from Stafford to Goff, however in watching their games they run a similar pocket-passing system. When they fired Patricia, they hired Dan Campbell who learned under Sean Payton. Lions might be a decent future landing spot.
 
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