I am extremely disappointed in Shadeur…
…for driving a Dodge.
…for driving a Dodge.
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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread - Drafted by the Cleveland Browns (NFL)
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Who the **** is Shadeur
BuffWarHogFrog
Just be rad
Speculation: to make sure it wasn’t someone trying to impersonate Sanders with a fake ID. But I really don’t know.
GRM
Go Buffs/93' Grad
We all know the media is just a s***-show. Most all of the headlines mention SS's being cut, but then you read and the Vets are the one's out...
This morning, I read the news feed on my phone, the article said Pickett seems headed for the non-employee picket line as the Brown's opt for a $14M salary dump. That article said Flacco is an insurance policy and that SS and Gabriel will fight it out to start. Went to find the article again, and my browser moved on. However, I found two articles from "Across the pond" out of the UK and Ireland--which have GOOD NEWS--SS is safe and could start some games. Maybe Irish eyes are smiling on him, Dan Jeremiah/Mike Florio are quoted as Pickett out:
www.the-sun.com
www.irishstar.com
I love Heavy's take: Flacco and Pickett are the "clunkiest" of all. Is that a new team of football art?
https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/cleveland-browns/joe-flacco-trade-cut-kenny-pickett/
Then we get Newsweek (do they even have a sports section?):
www.newsweek.com
Read the article, apparently the Browns are just tanking with SS/Gabriel this season to get Cade Klubnik at #1 next season!! Anyways, speeding tickets aside, it sounds to me the SS is getting his NFL audition this season with the Browns. I've never seen or heard of either SS/Gabriel tanking a game.
On another note, our Denver post has a great Rockies article on Charlie Monfort, sounds like he might be back in the fold. I'll let those interested find it. But in the immortal words of Dean Wormer: "fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." In evaluating news stories these days Caddyshack came to mind: [Rodney]: "you see Wang and I just bought property on the Great Wall, on the good side."
Enjoy Happy Monday!
This morning, I read the news feed on my phone, the article said Pickett seems headed for the non-employee picket line as the Brown's opt for a $14M salary dump. That article said Flacco is an insurance policy and that SS and Gabriel will fight it out to start. Went to find the article again, and my browser moved on. However, I found two articles from "Across the pond" out of the UK and Ireland--which have GOOD NEWS--SS is safe and could start some games. Maybe Irish eyes are smiling on him, Dan Jeremiah/Mike Florio are quoted as Pickett out:
Cleveland Browns tipped to cut $14 million quarterback after Sanders battle
KENNY PICKETT is being tipped for an exit from the Cleveland Browns – just months after joining. The NFL organization currently have four active quarterbacks on the depth chart. Cleveland dra…
www.the-sun.com
Shedeur Sanders in danger of being cut by Browns as $14M QB facing battle
Shedeur Sanders has been impressive in the Cleveland Browns' minicamps, but the team is expected to keep a maximum of three quarterbacks, leaving the rookie in a tough spot
I love Heavy's take: Flacco and Pickett are the "clunkiest" of all. Is that a new team of football art?
https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/cleveland-browns/joe-flacco-trade-cut-kenny-pickett/
Then we get Newsweek (do they even have a sports section?):
Browns Predicted to Move on From Shedeur Sanders, Dillon Gabriel
The Cleveland Browns would move on from Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel if one new prediction came true.
www.newsweek.com
Read the article, apparently the Browns are just tanking with SS/Gabriel this season to get Cade Klubnik at #1 next season!! Anyways, speeding tickets aside, it sounds to me the SS is getting his NFL audition this season with the Browns. I've never seen or heard of either SS/Gabriel tanking a game.
On another note, our Denver post has a great Rockies article on Charlie Monfort, sounds like he might be back in the fold. I'll let those interested find it. But in the immortal words of Dean Wormer: "fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." In evaluating news stories these days Caddyshack came to mind: [Rodney]: "you see Wang and I just bought property on the Great Wall, on the good side."
Enjoy Happy Monday!
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all clickbait.We all know the media is just a s***-show. Most all of the headlines mention SS's being cut, but then you read and the Vets are the one's out...
This morning, I read the news feed on my phone, the article said Pickett seems headed for the non-employee picket line as the Brown's opt for a $14M salary dump. That article said Flacco is an insurance policy and that SS and Gabriel will fight it out to start. Went to find the article again, and my browser moved on. However, I found two articles from "Across the pond" out of the UK and Ireland--which have GOOD NEWS--SS is safe and could start some games. Maybe Irish eyes are smiling on him, Dan Jeremiah/Mike Florio are quoted as Pickett out:
Cleveland Browns tipped to cut $14 million quarterback after Sanders battle
KENNY PICKETT is being tipped for an exit from the Cleveland Browns – just months after joining. The NFL organization currently have four active quarterbacks on the depth chart. Cleveland dra…Shedeur Sanders in danger of being cut by Browns as $14M QB facing battle
Shedeur Sanders has been impressive in the Cleveland Browns' minicamps, but the team is expected to keep a maximum of three quarterbacks, leaving the rookie in a tough spot
I love Heavy's take: Flacco and Pickett are the "clunkiest" of all. Is that a new team of football art?
https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/cleveland-browns/joe-flacco-trade-cut-kenny-pickett/
Then we get Newsweek (do they even have a sports section?):
Browns Predicted to Move on From Shedeur Sanders, Dillon Gabriel
The Cleveland Browns would move on from Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel if one new prediction came true.
Read the article, apparently the Browns are just tanking with SS/Gabriel this season to get Cade Klubnik at #1 next season!! Anyways, speeding tickets aside, it sounds to me the SS is getting his NFL audition this season with the Browns. I've never seen or heard of either SS/Gabriel tanking a game.
On another note, our Denver post has a great Rockies article on Charlie Monfort, sounds like he might be back in the fold. I let those interested find it. But in the immortal words of Dean Wormer: "fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." In evaluating news stories these days Caddyshack came to mind: [Rodney]: "you see Wang and I just bought property on the Great Wall, on the good side."
Enjoy Happy Monday!
The number of clickbait AI generated articles from places like Newsweek, Sport Illustrated, and odd one like the Spanish Marca have exploded. Most of the print news is dead, and outfits like Newsweek and SI have been gobbled up simply for some latent name recognition that induces one to think they have some credibility. They don’t.
This,
Those reporters don't know what the team is thinking, those decisions will be made by the coaches with input from the GM. NFL teams are known for not giving out any more information than they have to or that they see benefiting them.
They have to produce a certain amount of content on schedule, the more eyes that content attracts the better for their job security.
95% of what they are publishing is pure speculation, the other 5% is being fed to them by coaches, GMs, players or agents, etc. and is being pushed as part of an agenda, not to disclose truth.
Those same reporters are able to see a certain amount of mini-camp and OTA sessions but they have no idea how the coaches are evaluating those and they have no idea how the players are doing in meetings and film study.
My guess is that the Browns know that neither of the two veterans is their future. They will probably start the season starting one of them but as soon as he falters they will be looking to play the rookies.
If the season is a bust they have a high pick and draft a QB early next year, if one of the rookies shows he can be looked at as a potential franchise guy then they can direct that pick towards other needs or trade the rookie for additional draft picks.
Considering the importance of the QB in the NFL it is surprising how many QBs were traded early in their careers to go on and have great careers with other teams while the team trading them away struggled to find a guy.
Does anyone thing Atlanta might have wished they kept Farve, (Atlanta also traded away Matt Schaub who was a solid starter a few years in Houston.) Chargers ended up with Philip Rivers who put up big numbers but never had the ultimate success that Drew Brees had after they traded him to New Orleans.
Here is how I would break down the Cleveland Browns QB situation for 2025:
25% chance the Browns keep all four QBs, with the potential to pull the 54 member roster trick where they place Flacco on the practice squad and elevate him to active each week. Obviously some risk there but at his age, he’d be most likely to not get claimed.
25% Flacco gets moved if Pickett can reliably be counted to start week one
25% Pickett gets moved if they don’t actually see upside in Pickett through camp and preseason and are happy with Flacco and two rookies. Pickett could be traded potentially for a 7th. Maybe.
12.5% Gabriel gets moved. Sanders shows more upside in camp and a team with a lefty QB, like Tua at the Dolphins, could trade for Gabriel so the Browns would get some draft capital back, although not a 3rd.
12.5% Sanders gets moved. Browns don’t see him as long term solution and prefer Gabriel as the backup QB (fewer eyes on him) and they look for their QB of the future in the 2026 draft.
One thing you can be certain of, if neither rookie QB takes the reins by the end of the season, one has to go. There is now way that the Browns will open 2026 with a highly drafted rookie QB and two second year QBs in the room.
25% chance the Browns keep all four QBs, with the potential to pull the 54 member roster trick where they place Flacco on the practice squad and elevate him to active each week. Obviously some risk there but at his age, he’d be most likely to not get claimed.
25% Flacco gets moved if Pickett can reliably be counted to start week one
25% Pickett gets moved if they don’t actually see upside in Pickett through camp and preseason and are happy with Flacco and two rookies. Pickett could be traded potentially for a 7th. Maybe.
12.5% Gabriel gets moved. Sanders shows more upside in camp and a team with a lefty QB, like Tua at the Dolphins, could trade for Gabriel so the Browns would get some draft capital back, although not a 3rd.
12.5% Sanders gets moved. Browns don’t see him as long term solution and prefer Gabriel as the backup QB (fewer eyes on him) and they look for their QB of the future in the 2026 draft.
One thing you can be certain of, if neither rookie QB takes the reins by the end of the season, one has to go. There is now way that the Browns will open 2026 with a highly drafted rookie QB and two second year QBs in the room.
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a lot*
Yes, I know.
That’s one option. Stefanski will have traded DTR and a 5th for him. If they play Flacco this year, and then select a QB next year very high by, say packaging their two first rounders together for a top three pick, the Cleveland Browns will have done the following:
Traded three first rounders, a fourth, and a fifth for Watson.
Traded a fifth rounder and DTR for Pickett.
Used a third rounder to select Gabriel.
Traded their 166 and 192 picks to move up to 144 to take Shedeur.
Potentially traded two 2026 round 1 picks to move toward the top of the draft to select a QB.
That is a crazy amount of draft capital.
The Browns…
Unless Flacco somehow revitalizes both himself and the team there is a very good chance they will have a top 3 pick without trading for it.
Flacco is not their future, he is barely their present. He also in the past wasn't a guy who was real interested in being a mentor/coach to young guys.
Flacco for some time when younger was actually a good QB, Pickett has proven with multiple teams that he can't play well enough to win games.
Gabriel may have a solid future in the league but not as a starter. He could very well be the guy you want as a backup, hard to imagine any good coach feeling comfortable with him as their most important guy.
Why Shedeur dropped is still another issue but it wasn't because he couldn't play. A lot of knowledgable people expected him to go early in the 1st round. Given a real shot he could end up as the best QB to come out of this years draft. (sorry Cam Ward but not you.)
Browns are going to be the Browns which means they could screw up almost anything. They have been accumulating talent, they aren't a terrible roster but QB play hasn't been good enough to win.
I think one of two things happens.
1) They play QB roulette starting with Flacco or Pickett and eventually move to Gabriel then when it is too late to Shedeur and win at a max 4-5 games or.
2) They start with one of the veterans then eventually end up with Shedeur who wins them enough games to not be in the top 5 and gives them hope for the following season.
If #2 happens then they ideally use that high pick for a difference making compliment to Shedeur and give themselves something to build around.
Sooo si is all eh? Hmmm
GRM
Go Buffs/93' Grad
Ran across this article today. It explained a trend of NFL teams not taking QBs in the middle rounds. Then it talks about the NIL incentive for those with eligibility to stay in college another year. One thing that I have noticed in recent drafts is College QBs who transferred their JR/SR. year playing well in a new offense seemed to have their draft status really rise. I think this shows they can compete, command an offense, learn on the fly and a coachable w/ different coaches/schemes.
www.foxsports.com
Why aren't more QBs selected in middle rounds? Inside the NFL's latest draft trend | FOX Sports
Could we see more high-profile QBs with remaining eligibility stave off turning pro with the potential to secure larger NIL paydays? Michael Cohen examines the NFL's latest draft trend.
www.foxsports.com
I think in time we will see sticking around an extra year in college is going to benefit these college QBs in adjusting to the pro game. Not only will they end up drafted higher but they will have better rates of success as pros, and the NFL teams will see it and put more emphasis on drafting guys with more college experience.Ran across this article today. It explained a trend of NFL teams not taking QBs in the middle rounds. Then it talks about the NIL incentive for those with eligibility to stay in college another year. One thing that I have noticed in recent drafts is College QBs who transferred their JR/SR. year playing well in a new offense seemed to have their draft status really rise. I think this shows they can compete, command an offense, learn on the fly and a coachable w/ different coaches/schemes.
Why aren't more QBs selected in middle rounds? Inside the NFL's latest draft trend | FOX Sports
Could we see more high-profile QBs with remaining eligibility stave off turning pro with the potential to secure larger NIL paydays? Michael Cohen examines the NFL's latest draft trend.
The NIL money will make that an easier decision. Instead of risking money due to injury they some will actually come out ahead because guaranteed NIL money is better than 4th - 6th round money for an NFL team that sits them then replaces them a year or three down the road. Take the NIL money, maybe get drafted higher but rarely lower, and still get their shot at the league.
GRM
Go Buffs/93' Grad
Taking Shedeur out of the equation... I wonder the draft status of Ewers, if instead of going to NFL, he went to a great contending team (maybe TN) leading them into the CFP and perhaps winning games in the CFP. If so, his stock might be 1st round (3 trips to CFP?) going higher since he showed that he could do it at a high level with the new team in year 1 with new coaches, teammates, schemes etc... I think the NFL establishment is giving props to guys that transfer showing they can adjust and succeed where-ever. Spenser Rattler is an interesting guy mentioned in the article, he definitely has talent and actually played in the NFL last year. Overall, at many positions, I think the NFL wants older players. There are always those can't miss manchilds, but for the rest it is experience and adjusting.
His release looks a little quicker
Draftkings simulated Shedeur's entire career
Can you imagine how many sacks he'll have to endure to become the completion GOAT?
Kenny Pickett Traded To The New Orleans Saints https://share.google/WkbSiYYWtlec62rhR
That was from yesterday and I don’t see anything else about it
Me either
off SS#2 for a little bit