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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread - Drafted by the Cleveland Browns (NFL)
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If you liked Gabriel as a prospect, I have to question your positional savviness.
Okay! Enough of the personal attacks!!
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I had a 4th round draft grade on him. Felt he had the most special traits in this class for QBs outside of Shedeur.
Loved his anticipation
His processing speed was fuego as a prospect
Always on time which is critical for a rhythm and timing based scheme
That's a lot. His issue was he has 3 critical flaws.
Size and length
Doesn't throw well in a muddy pocket
Struggles throwing on the run.
When you are small like him, struggling to throw on the run could be a showstopper.
Overall, I thought he was a pretty darn good QB prospect. I liked him a lot at Oregon and Oklahoma. Even some at UCF.
I just never though he could carry someone. He's like an inferior Tua with a stronger arm. Tua was one of the best prospects as a QB I've evaluated out of college. I just didn't know if the hip injury would ruin him. It somewhat did. He's not the athlete he used to be at Bama.
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I also have size and length issues, but I thrive in a muddy pocket!
His anticipation and processing speed directly correlated to the offenses he played in. Only a half field pre-snap reads, 1 step drops and underneath/check down throws. Not exactly pro-level concepts. This doesn't even take into consideration his size and struggles on the move. 100% FA QB.
Browns announce he will start Friday.
I haven't seen much comment on the fact Jimmy Horn Jr is playing for Carolina. I think SS plays half the game and Carolina, to show off for their home fans, makes heavy use of JH
Hulu is now showing the game on their NJ listings.
We've had some NFL successes in the last 20 years, but not a whole lot from skill position players (i.e. Laviska) This year should change that.
Hulu is now showing the game on their NJ listings.
We've had some NFL successes in the last 20 years, but not a whole lot from skill position players (i.e. Laviska) This year should change that.
Are they going to give him some time with the 1s or are they trying to make him look bad?
If anyone can handle an assignment which calls for getting the best from an understaffed group of competitors, it's SS
dunno. He gets to start. He gets a good opportunity.
It’s probably the position of QB but I feel more invested in his success as a pro than any other NFL Buff in my lifetime.
TBH, the worst thing that can happen to the franchise is that SS2 plays well Friday night. That said, I fully expect the Browns staff to call a game that gives him every disadvantage possible.
Poor DBT
and maybe Yak
and maybe Yak
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I want him to kill it. He is the only fully healthy QB on the roster aside from Flacco, and the Browns ain't gonna play Flacco at all in this first game. Shedeur has a perfect opportunity to separate himself here, and I believe he is up for it.
After draft and camp shenanigans, I feel that way too. And Travis, but for diffetemt reasons.
Speculating?
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He had to make full field reads at Oregon. Moreso than many guys in this class, especially someone like Ward and especially Dart.
Size and length showed up on film playing for stacked Oregon. You knew it would be an issue but so did muddy pocket and the throwing on the move is why I was shocked Cleveland saw him as a potential franchise guy. I just felt his ceiling was always top end backup.
This is illogical thinking.
Drafting SS in the 5th round simply makes them look smart because they didn't need to draft him higher.
They knew his stock had dropped and they knew they could wait to get the guy they really wanted.
Of course, that doesn't explain why they wasted a 3rd rounder on Gabriel but at this point, they should be hoping to get 3rd round trade value for him but it would appear that show casing him is not going to help that value.
They win if they accept they got a first rounder, once in a lifetime value at QB, the most important position and write-off the other insurance policies that they paid for. In the end, those are mice nuts compared to getting a franchise QB really in any round, never mind the 5th. WINNING!
You can't put a price on that. Imagine, the Browns being cool again. (they were when Jim Brown was there).
Calling the Browns front office and coaching staff "smart" is an interesting take.
Agree with you. Saw him as one of those guys who spends 8-12 years in the league for multiple teams. Gets 20 or so starts but can never grab and keep a starting job. Coaches love him because he will always know the offense and game plan even without a lot of practice reps.
He won't embarrass you but will never be good enough to be the guy you build around.