So despite one bad game he still ranks in the top 5 nationally, but is not even in the conversation. I compared him to the #1 QB in each of those categories to give context, it wasn't a Shedeur vs Ward specific comparison I was trying to make.
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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread
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Then don't make a Ward specific comparison I guess?
He's also not leading a lights out offense. His passing yards are gaudy but we are not a top 25 offense. To be in the heisman contention you need to be a QB of a near perfect winning team or be doing something really special (Travis) nearly every week.
He's doing good QB things, but without more wins, that's not enough. Getting destroyed on national television by a middling B10 team killed his candidacy. Failing to bring us back against KSU killed his chances at reviving it. If he strings 4 special games together, maybe?
Sheduer will pull an Elway/Manning if Cleveland drafts him. They are in salary cap hell and are years away from being able to invest in talent.
There's 0% chance CP leaves us for Cleveland. Any coach who takes that job is losing for 2 years before they have a chance.
There's 0% chance CP leaves us for Cleveland. Any coach who takes that job is losing for 2 years before they have a chance.
1. Travis is a better story for Heisman. There are QBs to talk about every year, how often do you get a unicorn.
2. Colorado stunk the last 2/3 of last year, Shedeur didn't put him in the spotlight with wins.
3. As easy as he makes their job a lot of media people don't like Prime because he doesn't act like they think he should and he doesn't kiss the media in the backside. Their dislike for prime gets transferred to his son(s).
He's not the best player on his own team.
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CP is not leaving for the NFL
Agreed
That’s true but that doesn’t preclude another deserving player to be in the conversation. Also, the best player has now missed the better part of two straight games and needs to be pretty dominant in the remaining 5 games to get the nod, IMO
Stay away from shedeur jets!
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We don't want both Travis and Shedeur in the Heisman conversation. They won't finish 1-2 => they'll cannabalize the votes that would have gone to just one of them.
FIFY
I’ve never understood this argument. It’s not one vote per voter, it’s ranked choice voting and the winner is declared from a point system. Two candidates from the same team shouldn’t lead to other candidates jumping the most deserving one.
Always bothers me
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Not one of the top ten QBs in CFB? It's a take, I guess. At least I know not to pay attention to a durn thing Fornelli says. SMFH
Ranked 2nd or 3rd? Could see. Not in the top ten? Dude does not know ball.
Fornelli is part of the Danny Kanell and Bud Elliot Cover 3 pod that has been anti prime from the beginning. Sad though, because supposedly he grew up as a Buffs fan
Kind of hard to go to 3rd (I get Ward) if you don't even have Dart, Ewers or Rourke in your top ten.
Does he know Ward isn't white?
He clearly knows what hes talking about.
I can see the argument. I don’t agree with the argument.
Of the QBs in college today, Shedeur makes the most NFL throws. With any moderate level of protection, he’s deadly.
He's one of the most NFL-ready college QBs I've seen. Probably the last guy I felt this highly about was Andrew Luck.
I honestly think this holds true with or without my B&G glasses on; in a weak QB class, Shedeur is so far and above the rest from an NFL readiness perspective and I also think his game will translate the best out of all the draft eligible guys.
Dude is on Avery Johnson’s jock. Avery Johnson.
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Yep. Matt Ryan is who Shedeur reminds me of. Matt being a superior game manager whereas Shedeur is a superior pocket passer
Matt is probably the 2nd most polished QB to enter the league in the last 30 years. Luck obvious being #1.
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Hard to say it's a weak class. It's a class large on QB depth. I would probably compare it to the Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco class
Shedeur and Ward are both 1 and 2.
Milroe wasn't someone in that 2008 class but he's a wildcard.
That class had at least 8 5+ year backup QBs including Matt Flynn, Josh Johnson, and Chad Henne