Okay? And? Washington ranked #8 and the others ranked #13, 14, and 15. That difference is hardly worth splitting hairs over.
Do you honestly think CU is more talented than Clemson, Alabama, and Ohio State? Of course you do not.
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Should the Buffs go with a 4 WR offense this year?
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Okay? And? Washington ranked #8 and the others ranked #13, 14, and 15. That difference is hardly worth splitting hairs over.
Do you honestly think CU is more talented than Clemson, Alabama, and Ohio State? Of course you do not.
I never said we were. My point is, we have more talent at WR then we ever had. Montez is a better passer than Sefo.
I believe we ran Sefo too much, but that was due to lack of O-line talent and his limited ability to make all the throws needed.
We have zero experience behind Montez, I personally would layoff all the up the middle runs by our QB to keep him healthy and pass the rock.
Your comment was to emulate 3 of the top 4 teams in the final 4.
I would rather emulate the best O of the 4 and save our QB.
Jeric
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No one's suggesting we use Montez the same way we used Sefo. For one, Sefo runs a 5.1 and he's only that fast in a straight line. You get Montez into open space on runs, because he can utilize it far better. Also if we're going to replace Sefo's reps in the run game with passes, then we better have some 4 WR sets and our OL better block better than they did for Sefo (and especially Montez) because he came up limping just as much from dropping back.
In fact, you seem to be ignoring in general that Sefo was injured on drop-backs more than he was on QB runs (he separated his shoulder on a pass, he hurt his wrist on a pass, he broke his foot on a pass, he twisted his ankle on an outside the box run, and I think he got injured in the last two games on drop-backs).
Lindsay can't really handle more reps and he lost his only respectable backup and a QB who took away a lot of the hits from him, I'm most worried about his health than anyone's.
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Yeah BB and Fontenot need to show up in a big way to help Lindsay. Obviously Evans as well, once he's recovered, and Nixon should get some carries here and there.
I am not ignoring the fact he got hurt on drop backs, I just believe the punishment takes its toll.
Totally agree about Lindsay, we need a second back to help, and this will all be a mute point if the O-Line isn't improved.
However I am expecting it to be better.
If you watch the CU/Oregon game, Lindgren called a bunch of power QB runs with Montez. That play seems that it will still be used. I think the hope is that we don't rely on that play every time 2nd or 3rd and short comes up (which I don't think CU can with Montez), but people need to realize that play will stay and be used at times.
The other side of the coin is what @Jeric mentioned about when Sefo actually got hurt last year. His injuries that actually forced him to miss time came while he was in the pocket or scrambling, not really on any of the designed runs, including the power stuff. I'm not advocating for Montez to continue with the between the tackles running, but people need to realize that QBs get hurt far more in the pocket than running the ball.
CB17Cubed
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I agree on the designed QB off tackle plays. Feel like it is obvious when it happens and don't get much gain out of it. I would prefer we do a RPO with Montez like we did last season with him.
Also true. Although you typically want to avoid your QB being the primary guy delivering body blows if you can.
Medford M.
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Anyone relying on BB for meaningful carries is going to be disappointed for 3 more years.
8Jah
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His main injury last year was due to him trying to hit the edge in the UM game. Just wasn't fast enough and got clobbered. His main injury in 2015, even though he dropped back, was from trying to fight off a gang tackle from the entire USC DL with a ridiculous hope of salvaging something on the ground. Seriously, go back and watch that play. Tell a guy he is both a QB and a FB and he will take on the mentality of both roles. Passing QBs just need to take the sack.Your short yardage RB is always trying to get a few until the whistle...
Isn't this the point you were arguing from the opposite side when I used WSU as an example?
They may not be Auburn, but there is no denying that WSU has been running the ball much more often and more effectively under Leach in recent seasons.
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Medford M.
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That's who Sefo is though. IMO, toughest QB in college football during his 4 years.
No. I sharply contested your assertion that Wazzu had the best rushing attack in the Pac-12 last season and that Wazzu is an offense to emulate if you want to have a strong running game.
To agree with you WSU was 114th last year in rushing. 120yds per game
The Ogre
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The question asked in the makes me wonder: Is the altitude edge at Folsom (both real and imagined) best capitalized by power, or speed? Seems to me that over the course of a game, the defensive players most likely to wear out are on the line. Quick drops/passes are less fight for them, unless the next snap is quick, which also kicks their asses.
Four wide takes advantage of CU's personnel strength, the play calling just needs to take into consideration the altitude for home games (and the conditioning advantage that should provide on the road) too, IMO.
Four wide takes advantage of CU's personnel strength, the play calling just needs to take into consideration the altitude for home games (and the conditioning advantage that should provide on the road) too, IMO.
Medford M.
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Like I said, just have Huntley gain 20 lbs, call him a TE, and boom you have basically a 4-wide set.
Weren't both originally pass plays that broke down, or at least the USC injury?
8Jah
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Trufflesauce
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This is the first time I'm seeing the post-game interview of Wilton Speight. Love that he said Chido's sack was the hardest he's ever been hit.
Medford M.
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He needs a redshirt, but yeah he is being stubborn/hard headed about thinking he is a running back. Frankly, he doesnt have enouvh shake for me to say he should ever have the ball in his hands.
vinniew_11
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Do we even know he can play ILB in the PAC? That's a big claim you make
Ok what do y'all want to average rushing? Ill put 180, that's solid with this type of O.
13 teams topped 500 yards of offense per game. Those teams averaged 201.9 yds rushing per game.
11 teams topped 40 points per game, those teams averaged 211.9 yds rushing per game.
I want at least 180/game and would like to see it pushing towards 200.
Definitely, I'd love to see 200, no less than 180. I don't give a damn how either, just produce when they call your number.
FlatironsBuff
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Only if he intercepts the ball or picks up a fumble.