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The 2020 COVID Coaching Carousel
- Thread starter Duff Man
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Ok, thank you. I suspect this is what JR was hinting at.
So you believe there is significant influence by the boosters on roster and gamely decisions?
Texas has all the money in the world, and that is where the problem comes from.
Texas has a number of big money donors, and when I say big money it is huge by the standards of most other schools.
The trouble is that for a long time that money has bought them access to the program. Some of them think they are one step removed from being Jerry Jones and that their opinion needs to be listened to.
The school does not want to get them upset and risk losing the money but it is very hard to run a program with multiple "bosses."
Any major college head coach recognizes that an important part of the job is managing relations with the alumni and especially the top end donors. At Texas that part of the job is even much larger than almost anywhere else.
These donor relations and some political pressures as well also influence how they have to deal with recruiting certain Texas kids and Texas high schools.
Football in Texas is a different culture than in most other parts of the country. High school and college football plays a much more important role in many peoples lives and priorities. If you are the Head Coach at Texas you get to deal with that, the good and the bad.
Bingo.
I don't think any program has much influence from boosters on a day to day operations or game day operations.
More the country club feel that was stated above. They make promises to kids that most certainly makes them a problem with the team as they are most certainly not as committed. This has a long lasting effect throughout the program.
Lol of course the donors aren’t involved with on field decision making, come on guys.
End of the day, they’ve had Charlie Strong and Tom Herman. Strong has proven to be a mediocre coach in general and Herman hasn’t done a bad job by any means, but maybe he’s just a good but not great coach? He’s also at UT during a time when OU has been a top 3 team in the country with back to back Heisman winners.
End of the day, they’ve had Charlie Strong and Tom Herman. Strong has proven to be a mediocre coach in general and Herman hasn’t done a bad job by any means, but maybe he’s just a good but not great coach? He’s also at UT during a time when OU has been a top 3 team in the country with back to back Heisman winners.
Interesting take.
I think recruiting is always seen as a plus for texas but even that can be a political nightmare, especially with A$M being in the SEC and Oklahoma doing so well recently. I think it leads to inflated rankings where the coaches know their recruit isn’t as good as he actually is but they still have to take him.
Administration is molassss. Hard to get stuff done. Too many cooks in the kitchen.
And Ehlinger says coaching.
Plus culture.
Bad mix.
LSU should make that hire ASAP.
That’s a big buyout for BP.
It is, but you can probably get Muschamp relatively cheap if the standard offset language applies from his South Carolina contract.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
If he leaves for South Carolina and flops, we look better.
Go ahead, @leftybuff
Okay, here we go.
Admittedly, I was late to the game this year. 2020 has, and continues to be weird. I just was not as up on the Carousel as usual, but I will saddle up and try to do a passable job of update and comment.
Open Jobs:
Utah State- (h/t Duff) the carousel gets spinning with an 0-3 start leading to the dumping of Gary Anderson, well-traveled and now unemployed. Frank Maile (h/t DeNiro) interim.
South Carolina- Muschamp out (h/t CarolinaBuff and DeNiro). $13MM buyout for Muschamp. Ouch. Early names, Hugh Freeze, Billy Napier, Jamey Chadwell, Rhett Lashlee, Luke Fickell and possibly Shane Beamer.
Vandy- Derek Mason canned after 27-55 record over 6 or so years. (h/t serenity buff) Early names: Jamey Chadwell, Jeff Fisher (not bloody likely IMO), Will Healy, Clark Lea ND DC. (h/t DeNiro) MikMac mentioned by numerous posters here, and actually, probably a good candidate. If Vandy throws an anchor at the triple, Jeff Monken and the ever popular Ken Nuamitoatloloaoaitolaotu from Navy mentioned (h/t TSchek)
FIlled jobs:
S. Miss-Jay Hopson out. Bret Bielema, his gut, money and hot wife considered but not named. Will Hall, Tulane OC gets the nod. (h/t TSchek)
Possibles:
Tennessee- Pruitt on thin ice, Hugh Freeze? (h/t ahoelsken)
Michigan- Harbaugh cannot beat anybody. Getting pantsed by Melvin Huckster doesn't help.
Tejas- Herman not getting it done. Rumors Urban Meyer is being pursued.
Arizona- Sumlin may, or may not be on his way out.
fUCLA- Chipster, (see Sumlin above)
Clay Helton- Keeps coming back more the the Energizer Bunny
LSU- All the talent in the world but not showing. Ed Orgeron may be on the geaux.
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Dude, LSU is not firing Orgeron one year after the most fun season they've probably ever had.
Yikes. Jen hot?
The only scenario I see happening to fire him is if the sex assault coverup stuff blows up in his face.
And this could indeed happen.
Texass lock
Oh I have missed that site since the realignment stuff back in the day.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
I think Charlie Strong is a college version of Wade Phillips or Norv Turner. Some guys are better suited to be coordinators than HCs. Tom Herman's a really good coach/recruiter in my opinion. He's a little in over his head there-I think he's .500 against both Oklahoma State and TCU-and that ain't gonna get it done at Texas. If I'm South Carolina's AD and he's available, I'd take a look at him.
Observations on Texas-If they move on from Tom Herman, they're only doing it if they know they're getting Urban Meyer. I also don't think Matt Campbell would go there. I think he's pretty happy at Iowa State (dude's practically a god in Ames as it is), and I think when he does move on-he's going to a Big 10 blueblood (Michigan?). Mario Cristobal would flop there-he's had the same problem at Oregon (losses to teams he shouldn't lose to) that Herman has at Texas. I think PJ Fleck's act would wear very thin down there really quickly. If I'm their AD, the backup candidate to Urban has to be Kyle Whittingham in my opinion.
what is a "fox hit"?
Rumors that Urban's wife has been looking at houses in Austin
austonia.com
Exclusive: Urban Meyer's wife said to be eying Austin real estate
Urban Meyer's wife, Shelley, recently visited Austin to assess the real estate situation, Austonia has learned. Does that mean it's time for coaching legend Urban to ride into Austin and take the reins from his former assistant coach Tom Herman?
austonia.com
I agree. I would add, whomever they select has to have a political mindset. That is why Mack Brown was so good there. The guy could be all things to all people. Can Urban do that? I don't know. The big cigars demand fealty. Keeping those bloated egos happy, coaching a team and regularly beating OU is a tall order.