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**** the CU Athletic Dept for holding this game in Denver

hokiehead said:
I've heard both Frank Beamer and Justin Fuente in interviews make statements to the effect they believe there is a recruiting advantage to playing games in NFL stadiums. This sentiment is shared almost universally on the ACC message boards.

I raised this question once before on Allbuffs, and the responses were something like "once every few years is fine, but not every season". Well, this is the first game in two years at Mile High and there are no games on the future schedules in Denver, yet fans are still bítching.

Do CU fans disagree that there's a recruiting benefit? do CU fans think that advantage might be there for other schools but doesn't apply to us? Or is this really about simple fan preference and the people who are bítching don't GAF about recruiting advantages?
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There are some people in Boulder who don’t like doing anything outside of a ten mile buffer zone surrounding the town. There’s a second group who have a very deep love of Folsom (which is admittedly pretty cool). Think Mecca or the Vatican. Finally a third group associates Mile High Stadium with boring games vs. CSU.
 
Uncle Ken said:
Which circles back to the opening post. How awesome would that game have been in Folsom?

Maybe we had to hold in Denver to make it happen - I don't know the details of that.

But when offered:

1. One of the most beautiful venues in college football, on a campus that alumni are excited to come back to visit, and students don't have to travel to access.

or...

2. A sterile NFL stadium with no views or history associated with our team, that requires students (many of whom don't have cars - though buses were an option).

**** man. I'm part of the problem. I live within walking distance of Folsom and I didn't go to the game in Denver. You can challenge my fandom, but I buy season tickets every year, watch every game and stay in my seat until I hear the words "Dear Old CU" no matter how cold it is, or how badly we might have lost, because I truly love the Folsom experience. Why would I fight traffic to sit in Mile-Hi/Sports Authority/Invesco/Empower Stadium when I can watch the game on TV and get better views?

I can't speak for other fans, but the only reason I watch sports live is for the experience.
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Of course it would have been better at Folsom, but we would have had to pay around 3 million to get them to do a one off at our stadium (see Ohio state paying oregon over 3 million after the game in Eugene was cancelled last year) instead of the 1.5 million they paid for the neutral site game. We should have just played the neutral site game at jerry world and taken the 1.5 million from them instead of that embarrassment that was Saturday afternoon. Just because the game isn’t where you want it doesn’t give the fanbase an excuse to just skip a game against a top 5 team 30 minutes from campus but CU gonna CU I guess.
 
InTheBuff said:
A&M lost their home game last year in the home and home series due to Covid.
This game was either going to be played in Denver against A&M or CU would have been playing a Weber St or New Mexico Highlands game at 11 a.m. hidden on Pac12 Net.
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So then we play it Denver. But we can barely get 50,000 butts in the seats at Folsom, and it's an awesome experience. Why should we expect to fill a much larger stadium with a significantly reduced fan experience?

I guess it's the expectations that baffle me, more than the attack on CU fans/students. I wish that we sold out Folsom for every game, and I wish that we filled Mile High on Saturday (but not so much that I actually attended).

But why offer a lesser experience (my opinion, that anybody is welcome to challenge) and experience better results? That seems like an insane expectation.
 
PAHIBuff said:
There are some people in Boulder who don’t like doing anything outside of a ten mile buffer zone surrounding the town. There’s a second group who have a very deep love of Folsom (which is admittedly pretty cool). Think Mecca or the Vatican. Finally a third group associates Mile High Stadium with boring games vs. CSU.
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good point -- I wasn't considering the "Boulder Bubble"

tangent: Boulder is awesome and if I had to relocate "down the hill" today, the city of Boulder would be first choice, but I don't get that bubble deal at all. Colorado has so much to offer outside of those 208 sq mi.
 
PAHIBuff said:
There are some people in Boulder who don’t like doing anything outside of a ten mile buffer zone surrounding the town. There’s a second group who have a very deep love of Folsom (which is admittedly pretty cool). Think Mecca or the Vatican. Finally a third group associates Mile High Stadium with boring games vs. CSU.
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I might qualify for all three.

I'd additionally add that it seemed every time I attended the RMS in Denver we lost, so I quit attending out of superstition as well.
 
hokiehead said:
I've heard both Frank Beamer and Justin Fuente in interviews make statements to the effect they believe there is a recruiting advantage to playing games in NFL stadiums. This sentiment is shared almost universally on the ACC message boards.

I raised this question once before on Allbuffs, and the responses were something like "once every few years is fine, but not every season". Well, this is the first game in two years at Mile High and there are no games on the future schedules in Denver, yet fans are still bítching.

Do CU fans disagree that there's a recruiting benefit? do CU fans think that advantage might be there for other schools but doesn't apply to us? Or is this really about simple fan preference and the people who are bítching don't GAF about recruiting advantages?
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The problem is the CSU game in Denver has resulted in a very bad taste in the mouths of many CU fans resulting in many fans digging in there feet and saying they will never attend a CU game in Denver - I blame a lot of this on Mike Bohn's handling of the game. My own beef was I had premium tickets at Folsom but unless I ponied up more money to improve my seats in Denver I ended up in the nosebleed seats. Overall I liked some of the experience at Mile High (seats are more comfortable) but there were a lot of drawbacks also.

I think the recruiting benefits of playing in an NFL stadium are minimal is they exist at all. Playing on national TV is the big benefit and the PAC-12 is behind on that.
 
hokiehead said:
it's a sales point that the recruiter tries to use as a differentiator -- "come to VT and you'll play at least one game in an NFL stadium to help get you ready for the pros". Sales points don't have to be relevant to be effective; the intent is to put the idea in the buyer's head that "this seller has something different the other guys don't have", or at minimum, "this selling proposition isn't lacking something that the other guys have".
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onealcd said:
Players like playing in NFL stadiums. The atmosphere, when done right, with a split stadium is electric (cocktail party in Jacksonville is a great example even though it is in a shifty stadium/area). I also think alumni like some of the one off ideas like notre dame and Wisconsin in Chicago where they can make a vacation out of the weekend and hang out in a great city. LA and Vegas will be huge for these games as well.
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That's all fine, I guess I just don't see it as any kind of major recruiting advantage, but whatever
 
Uncle Ken said:
So then we play it Denver. But we can barely get 50,000 butts in the seats at Folsom, and it's an awesome experience. Why should we expect to fill a much larger stadium with a significantly reduced fan experience?

I guess it's the expectations that baffle me, more than the attack on CU fans/students. I wish that we sold out Folsom for every game, and I wish that we filled Mile High on Saturday (but not so much that I actually attended).

But why offer a lesser experience (my opinion, that anybody is welcome to challenge) and experience better results? That seems like an insane expectation.
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Folsom is an amazing fan experience, however I was surprised how much fun I had last Saturday in Denver.
 
hokiehead said:
good point -- I wasn't considering the "Boulder Bubble"

tangent: Boulder is awesome and if I had to relocate "down the hill" today, the city of Boulder would be first choice, but I don't get that bubble deal at all. Colorado has so much to offer outside of those 208 sq mi.
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Colorado definitely has some interesting bubbles. In addition to Boulder there are at least (IMO) 2 more: a San Juan Mtns/Durango Bubble and another that’s a Grand Junction Bubble. Very different but insular nonetheless.
 
Uncle Ken said:
Which circles back to the opening post. How awesome would that game have been in Folsom?

Maybe we had to hold in Denver to make it happen - I don't know the details of that.

But when offered:

1. One of the most beautiful venues in college football, on a campus that alumni are excited to come back to visit, and students don't have to travel to access.

or...

2. A sterile NFL stadium with no views or history associated with our team, that requires students (many of whom don't have cars - though buses were an option).

**** man. I'm part of the problem. I live within walking distance of Folsom and I didn't go to the game in Denver. You can challenge my fandom, but I buy season tickets every year, watch every game and stay in my seat until I hear the words "Dear Old CU" no matter how cold it is, or how badly we might have lost, because I truly love the Folsom experience. Why would I fight traffic to sit in Mile-Hi/Sports Authority/Invesco/Empower Stadium when I can watch the game on TV and get better views?

I can't speak for other fans, but the only reason I watch sports live is for the experience.
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I don’t challenge your fandom at all. Traffic in Denver generally and traffic/parking at generic Mile High/multi-name stadium can be a pain. A Denver game is a road game to central Federal Blvd.
 
Uncle Ken said:
Which circles back to the opening post. How awesome would that game have been in Folsom?

Maybe we had to hold in Denver to make it happen - I don't know the details of that.

But when offered:

1. One of the most beautiful venues in college football, on a campus that alumni are excited to come back to visit, and students don't have to travel to access.

or...

2. A sterile NFL stadium with no views or history associated with our team, that requires students (many of whom don't have cars - though buses were an option).

**** man. I'm part of the problem. I live within walking distance of Folsom and I didn't go to the game in Denver. You can challenge my fandom, but I buy season tickets every year, watch every game and stay in my seat until I hear the words "Dear Old CU" no matter how cold it is, or how badly we might have lost, because I truly love the Folsom experience. Why would I fight traffic to sit in Mile-Hi/Sports Authority/Invesco/Empower Stadium when I can watch the game on TV and get better views?

I can't speak for other fans, but the only reason I watch sports live is for the experience.
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plug for local mass transit -- if not taking the wife with me, I've pretty much given up on driving into the city of Denver. I park at the light rail station in Golden and take RTD from there. less hassle, more affordable and I get an extra 35 minutes or so to sober up before getting back to my car.
 
hokiehead said:
plug for local mass transit -- if not taking the wife with me, I've pretty much given up on driving into the city of Denver. I park at the light rail station in Golden and take RTD from there. less hassle, more affordable and I get an extra 35 minutes or so to sober up before getting back to my car.
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I worked in downtown Denver for over 3 years and didn’t drive once. I’m a fan of the bus.
But not as much during the pandemic.
 
Pretty good crowd. I’m not sure what the official attendance was but this crowd would’ve packed Folsom I’d bet. The crowd was loud and electric. All that said, I’d much rather be in Boulder. I don’t like being a fairly long time season ticket holder and having to pay almost $100 for Level 3 End Zone seats. It pissed me off that this game wasn’t part of the season ticket package. I hope the AD made a ton of money because that would be the ONLY consolation.

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Uncle Ken said:
Because for PAHI, that's what normal looks like.


Not sure if that was a UBL.
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HaHa. If only life were as simple as you take it to be Ken. I find CS to be excruciatingly boring despite the passable scenery.
 
DBT said:
Pretty good crowd. I’m not sure what the official attendance was but this crowd would’ve packed Folsom I’d bet. The crowd was loud and electric. All that said, I’d much rather be in Boulder. I don’t like being a fairly long time season ticket holder and having to pay almost $100 for Level 3 End Zone seats. It pissed me off that this game wasn’t part of the season ticket package. I hope the AD made a ton of money because that would be the ONLY consultation.

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AD is offering consultations now? Dope. We talking Urinary or what?
 
Pbuffdiddy said:
No, I made the mistake of parking at a business off federal. After they collected money the vehicles were unattended. I will never again forget to ask if the lot where I park will be watched for the duration of the game
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Whenever i park for an event at an off-site lit like that, i always wonder about that.

And, TBH, a few times i parked in a shady off-site lot and kinda felt, or hoped, that i was paying some dude $20 to not steal my car.
 
hokiehead said:
Whenever i park for an event at an off-site lit like that, i always wonder about that.

And, TBH, a few times i parked in a shady off-site lot and kinda felt, or hoped, that i was paying some dude $20 to not steal my car.
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I don't recommend it. Pay the extra money. This was an expensive lesson to learn.
 
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