I think 6th is the new bottom though. Maybe 7.
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Tiebreaker Scenarios for PAC-12 tourney
- Thread starter duhu
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I think 6th is the new bottom though. Maybe 7.
We haven't had any better success against UCLA.
Nobody said this would be easy.
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I thought they play tomorrow
L Buff
Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left
I don't believe that is correct. If we lose to Cal, we're both 10-8 and they'll have the head-to-head tiebreaker with us.
In short ... beat Cal and clinch 4th ... or lose and settle for 5th or 6th.
Does anyone here think that is incorrect? :huh:
CU owns the tiebreaker over Stanford.
L Buff
Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left
But what about Cal? Am I incorrect is saying that if we lose to them tomorrow both teams will be 10-8, and they'll have the first tiebreaker?
duhu
Member
L Buff
Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left
Thanks ... that's what I thought. So even if Stanford loses tomorrow, we still need to beat Cal in order to clinch 4th.
duhu
Member
A #4 seed is still possible, even with a loss to Cal.
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cubuffs85
Active Member
Here's the scenario someone on my FB feed posted, "So here are the results we want Saturday:
Stanford over Utah, Arizona over Oregon, Oregon St over Arizona St. USC vs Washington and UCLA vs Washington St are irrelevant to us.
IF all of those happen, if we beat CAL we are the 3-seed, if we lose to CAL we would be the 4-seed."
duhu
Member
Oregon's outcome is irrelevant to Colorado.
for a fun fact: Only Colorado and ASU can possibly get the #3 seed, but the #4 seed is wide open. Utah, Cal, and Oregon can still get the #4 seed.
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cubuffs85
Active Member
Why? We could be tied with them? I know we win the head-to-head tiebreaker but would we win every mult-team scenario over them?
duhu
Member
Yes. Because Oregon is 0-3 against Cal, Stanford, and Colorado.
EDIT: Slight misunderstanding. I thought you meant solely in the specific case that you mentioned (in your scenario, Oregon's outcome is irrelevant). You are right, however, that some tiebreakers have Oregon coming into play.
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SECOBuffsFan
Active Member
Stanford by 1 over Utah
CU worst case is 5th seed...correct?
CU worst case is 5th seed...correct?
Tractor
Club Member
I think so....
From the original post:
The FIVE way tie possibility
Occurs if:
ASU loses @Oregon state
Oregon wins vs Arizona (CHECK)
Colorado loses @ Cal
Winner of Stanford/Utah (STANFORD)
For the first tiebreaker in the case of more than two teams, it's best record against the other teams that are tied with you (ie better winning percentage). It's mostly dependent on the winner of Stanford/Utah, but here's how it'd go:
If Stanford wins:
#3 Arizona St: 5-3
#4 Colorado: 3-2
#5 Cal: 3-3 (tiebreaker- better record vs Zona)
#6 Stanford: 3-3
#7 Oregon: 1-4
That's why I was rooting for Oregon against Zona just now....come on OSU!
From the original post:
The FIVE way tie possibility
Occurs if:
ASU loses @Oregon state
Oregon wins vs Arizona (CHECK)
Colorado loses @ Cal
Winner of Stanford/Utah (STANFORD)
For the first tiebreaker in the case of more than two teams, it's best record against the other teams that are tied with you (ie better winning percentage). It's mostly dependent on the winner of Stanford/Utah, but here's how it'd go:
If Stanford wins:
#3 Arizona St: 5-3
#4 Colorado: 3-2
#5 Cal: 3-3 (tiebreaker- better record vs Zona)
#6 Stanford: 3-3
#7 Oregon: 1-4
That's why I was rooting for Oregon against Zona just now....come on OSU!
Reading over the possibilities on cubuffs.com, I don't see any way we finish with the #4 seed. Unless I am reading it incorrectly, if we win we get the #3 seed while a loss leaves us at the #5 seed. Option #8 and option #1 look like the only remaining options.
Link: http://www.cubuffs.com/pdf9/2656089.pdf
I think the 5 would give us a game with Wazzu and then a rematch with Cal, correct?
Does the 3 definitely give us Oregon?
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
Well-Known Member
So who will be the #4 seed?
THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT.
