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Travis Hunter Appreciation Thread (Awards: HE12MAN, Walter Camp, Biletnikoff, Bednarik, Lott, Paul Hornung, AP PotY)

Sure, but spending so much schematic effort to simply try to tire out one player, makes the offensive game plan about something other than gaining yards and getting points.

Also, why can’t the defense simply adjust? Move Trav around if the offense is wasting a route of each play just running deep as a matter of course. If the player Trav is on is almost always going deep, then the defense knows part of every offensive play and what’s essentially happening on one side of the field. That seems like a bad plan.

Or simply shift into a Zone or the very popular Cover 4?
I would still argue that a tired Travis is still more likely to make a play against you than a rested #3CB. He made a lot of plays at CU late in games after already playing 100+ snaps.
 
I've never understood why a team wouldn't put a 4 receiver set on the field, and have the receiver on the far side of field from the defensive bench run a go route. Then no huddle, no personnel change and rotate another receiver over there; run another go route. Repeat one or two more times.

Then target the go route when the corner and safety on that side of the field are both gassed.
Because it's not middle school football.
 
Because it's not middle school football.
Ah, the old we're too grown up to do it even though it would work "reasoning."

I'm old enough to remember when the prevailing thought was that QBs that played like Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes wouldn't succeed in the league "because it's not middle school football."
 
Ah, the old we're too grown up to do it even though it would work "reasoning."

I'm old enough to remember when the prevailing thought was that QBs that played like Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes wouldn't succeed in the league "because it's not middle school football."
Others have responded correctly to this, but in a nutshell: Defensive teams adjust with personnel and scheme. Offensive teams can't be focused on tiring out one guy. Travis won't be playing the same number of snaps as he did in college, so the point is moot.
 
Ah, the old we're too grown up to do it even though it would work "reasoning."

I'm old enough to remember when the prevailing thought was that QBs that played like Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes wouldn't succeed in the league "because it's not middle school football."
Just like when a WR runs a go route and often times just walks off to his sideline because he’s gassed, the CB would also do that if he’s gassed. It doesn’t take a ton of time to get a single sub on the field.

Also, running an offense with that objective in mind will lead to a 3 and out more often than not. Also, deep balls have a low success rate no matter what the scenario is.
 
Others have responded correctly to this, but in a nutshell: Defensive teams adjust with personnel and scheme. Offensive teams can't be focused on tiring out one guy. Travis won't be playing the same number of snaps as he did in college, so the point is moot.
I'm not talking about an entire game plan, or even about Travis specifically.

Literally just a quick 3-4 down series of offensive plays where you trap a single corner into covering 3-4 go routes in a row while running no huddle. Except you're rotating a "fresh" receiver every down, and then hitting that receiver after the corner is gassed.

It's not a gameplan, and the idea isn't to "wear out" a single player over an entire game.
 
Just like when a WR runs a go route and often times just walks off to his sideline because he’s gassed, the CB would also do that if he’s gassed. It doesn’t take a ton of time to get a single sub on the field.
JFC I never said it was a gameplan to be used all the time. It's a 3-5 play situational use series at most.

And, if the corner is on the far side of the field from his bench, he's 60 yards from being to "step off." If the offense goes no huddle, isn't subbing players, then good luck getting that corner off the field.
 
It just struck me there's a huge disparity of reporting between reporting on Hunter's and Sanders' early NFL careers.

Anyone following Jacksonville as close as Cleveland?
I’m following Trav, when I see anything. But Trav is going no drama, just nailing it with the full support of his team and players around him.

Jacksonville is an up-and-coming team

Then there’s Cleveland…

The SS story is compelling in that it’s about fighting injustice and making progress doing so.
 
One.for best to ever play at CU, period.
In retrospect arguably the best.

If he didn't play WR at all he would have been the first DB taken, probably a top 5 pick.

If he didn't play DB he was still likely to be the first WR taken, at worst top 10.

He was the best football player in the draft not being the 1st overall simply because QB.

Buffs have had top 5 picks in the past, guys who were the best at their position, but nobody has had a guy best at two positions and best overall.

And that isn't even taking into account his character off the field.
 
Today, the Jags first position lists came out. Travis is listed at WR1 and CB3. This is fairly unique in modern NFL history for a rookie, or anyone else.
Based on what I heard from some NFL coaches talking about it in the offseason going back to pre-draft, offense was likely to be the focus his rookie year. Being able to get the team touchdowns is just more valuable than playing in the secondary.
 
Based on what I heard from some NFL coaches talking about it in the offseason going back to pre-draft, offense was likely to be the focus his rookie year. Being able to get the team touchdowns is just more valuable than playing in the secondary.
It seems pretty simple to me.

He mostly plays offense when they need to win. He plays on defense when they need to win.
 
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