He hasn't won enough to be caught on a wiretap
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SoDak
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Oh this is just delightful!
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I know they’ve been the bad guys here, but it seems to me that a partnership between the NBA, Nike, Adidas, and Gatorade can make this all work. It can be similar to what football clubs do in Europe, minor league baseball here in the US, and lower level hockey squads here in North America. All four of those entities have the resources and clout to make it work. Combining their resources can make this a successful ventue.
1. Eliminate the OAD. If a player is good enough after finishing high school and an NBA team wants to sign the player to their first team, sobeit. If the player is good enough to turn professional, but needs further development, they can play in the sponsored develomental league.
2. Let colleges/universities run their own deal with players who want the college experience. Plenty of players go to college and become pro baseball, hockey, and soccer, golf, tennis, etc. players every year. Those players decided to stay out of the pro loop for whatever reason. Even though they’re not required to stay, many do because they enjoy being a part of the college experience.
This solves the money issue. The NCAA basketball tournament will still be fine because it is more of a gambling event than anything else. In the end, that’s all these schools GAF about anyway.
1. Eliminate the OAD. If a player is good enough after finishing high school and an NBA team wants to sign the player to their first team, sobeit. If the player is good enough to turn professional, but needs further development, they can play in the sponsored develomental league.
2. Let colleges/universities run their own deal with players who want the college experience. Plenty of players go to college and become pro baseball, hockey, and soccer, golf, tennis, etc. players every year. Those players decided to stay out of the pro loop for whatever reason. Even though they’re not required to stay, many do because they enjoy being a part of the college experience.
This solves the money issue. The NCAA basketball tournament will still be fine because it is more of a gambling event than anything else. In the end, that’s all these schools GAF about anyway.
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Bright side: fewer schools implicated than in the ACC?
What's funny to me is what I'm seeing on my NC friends' facebook feeds. As you can imagine, for a long time there's been a lot of barbs and memes posted by NC State fans against Tarheel transgressions (rightly, of course) with a whole lot of holier-than-thou attitude. Turns out everybody's **** stinks over there; so it's been a quiet couple of days.
BTW over on PGU and Beardown they're trying to take the attitude that everyone in the Pac12 is doing it, including Tad. Grasping at straws and whatnot.
Somebody's rubbing another man's rhubarb, that's for sure.
Just set up something for the guys to be paid and it not break any rules. I say that and some sumbitch or University will break them anyway. I really don't know what you do.
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MCskid
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This is what will hopefully be the outcome in the end. Needs to happen for CFB as well. Gonna be fun and exciting to watch it all go down. Can't wait for the hammer to drop on CFB, that's when things will get really fun and exciting. Don't thing CFB is going down? This is how I imagine the FBI interview with the Bama/ND AC coach's went:
FBI- We've got enough to send you away for 10 years and we'll make sure you don't get a 'soap on a rope'. But if you let us know how they do it over there on the football side we can get you 12 months home arrest with an ankle monitor.
AC- I'll sing like a bird!
Seems like a lot of universities are already “running their own deal.” Yeah, that’s an awesome idea. Just take off the gloves and let schools do as they please. I’m betting I am misunderstanding what you mean. I hope.
I mean let Nike, Adidas, Reebok, UnderArmour, Gatorade, NBA, etc. run their own professional minor/developmental league like you have in the MLB, junior hockey, European Football, etc. The players and clubs can get additional sponsorships and even televise games if it becomes popular enough.
Colleges can run their amateur programs as purely amateur and still get the benefit of the tournament. Its popularity is because of gambling. The names on the backs of the jerseys are increasingly irrelevant.
Every year, for instance, there are people who are drafted into professional ranks for baseball. Some take the money and become minor leaguers with the hope of going to the bigs. Others go to college. The college WS is a nice event that generates great buzz. I think basketball should do the same thing.
The biggest problem I see is the real lack of choice for basketball players to go pro here in the USA while also getting additional development/getting paid. Since it is against NCAA rules, funneling money and the subsequent coverups become exercises in illegality.
Colleges can run their amateur programs as purely amateur and still get the benefit of the tournament. Its popularity is because of gambling. The names on the backs of the jerseys are increasingly irrelevant.
Every year, for instance, there are people who are drafted into professional ranks for baseball. Some take the money and become minor leaguers with the hope of going to the bigs. Others go to college. The college WS is a nice event that generates great buzz. I think basketball should do the same thing.
The biggest problem I see is the real lack of choice for basketball players to go pro here in the USA while also getting additional development/getting paid. Since it is against NCAA rules, funneling money and the subsequent coverups become exercises in illegality.
Well, whatever. We’re talking about 30 or 40 guy’s per year with pro potential. There are probably 1,200 to 1,500 players. A free education is a pretty good deal for most of them.
If the player wants the top or developmental league and the league wants him, they can have each other. The others can opt for school if they want the amateur college experience. The problem is that we shoe horn young people into college basketball when it isn’t the most efficient way of developing talent. Schools love the financial aspects so they hire coaches who can recruit and coach. Recruiting some players can be difficult if the school or its affiliates don’t pay bribes. So they do and cover it all up.
I’m all for allowing a kid to go pro right out of high school. I kind of like the hockey model where a team can draft a kid and hold his rights while he plays in college.
In other words, we weren't provided a "smoking gun" document and we're on the tourney bubble. Just like Oregon rode players under rape allegations to tourney appearances and a Final Four, we're gonna roll with Metu.
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Similar respresp from MSU. The Louisville ruling shows there really is no reason to admit to anything. Cheat - > profit -> meaningless vacate wins
I remember when LSU coach Dale Brown bragged that he was going to fly to LA with $150 K in a briefcase then lay a $1 bill on top of it so he'd be the high bidder for John (hot plate) Williams. Williams did attend LSU.
If this is the case his agent worked them over. I hate to see the lying cheat get the money but it would serve UA right for getting greedy as well and selling their souls to try to be a basketball powerhouse.
Who knows. If the FBI comes in and takes him away in handcuffs the university lawyers might make a case that Miller is violating the contract and get out of it.
Either way LOL at the suddenly silent Zona fans watching their dreams of BB glory go down the tubes.
Sean Miller will not coach tonight.
Yes. Eliminate the One And Done. That takes a percentage of this issue off the table. Ayten would be in the NBA right now. High level
College BB has always been dirty.
ahoelsken
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CBS says he gets half that if Arizona fires him without cause.
