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This is why “failure to monitor” actually has become a big deal. Plausible deniability is not an excuse anymore. Buck stops with the head coach. Of course with the caveat that this is if the NCAA decides to do anything about it.
That and UofA will actually have to care. Just recruit and win Sean.
 
Buffalo Brad said:
This is why “failure to monitor” actually has become a big deal. Plausible deniability is not an excuse anymore. Buck stops with the head coach. Of course with the caveat that this is if the NCAA decides to do anything about it.
That and UofA will actually have to care. Just recruit and win Sean.
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Part of the problem across college sports is that most fan bases are willing to accept almost anything if it gets them wins.

Look at all the teams out there that have had national or conference championships stripped. Do their fans care? No. Other than maybe not having a banner in the gym or the lettering on the press box as far as the fans are concerned they won the championship and whatever it took to get there was worth it.

Look at how the Penn State fans still pretend that Joe Pa is an innocent victim in the Sandusky case. To them all he did was win. Baylor is the same way. So some girls "claimed" that some players went a little to far. Who cares? They won ten games per year.

In light of those things do you think Kansas fans consider Larry Browns teams as anything less that champions? Some for all the other schools who had wins stripped, those aren't losses to the fans and donors.

Arizona has it's sports identity wrapped up in UofA basketball. If they have to find a new coach and have fewer scholarships for a couple years who cares, they won and won big.

Until the NCAA grows a spine and is willing to make penalties harsh enough to really set programs back the fans and especially the fans who are significant donors aren't going to care and as a result the schools will keep on breaking the rules because it makes them money.

We need to see the real threat of the death penalty come back. Short of the death penalty we need to see harsh cuts in scholarships allowed. For basketball take away 4-5 for 3 years, for football take away 10 or 15 for 3-5 years.

Also do serious bans on the people involved. Coaches, athletic directors, school administrators. Put in bans of 5 years or 10 years to life prohibiting any member NCAA institution from hiring them in the ban period. If they are given say that 5 year to life ban it would mean that at the end of five years if they were to come back they would acknowledge that another significant offense would mean a lifetime ban and the institution would acknowledge that by hiring them any significant violation would trigger automatic penalties up to the death penalty. And then back it up.
 
MtnBuff said:
Part of the problem across college sports is that most fan bases are willing to accept almost anything if it gets them wins.

Look at all the teams out there that have had national or conference championships stripped. Do their fans care? No. Other than maybe not having a banner in the gym or the lettering on the press box as far as the fans are concerned they won the championship and whatever it took to get there was worth it.

Look at how the Penn State fans still pretend that Joe Pa is an innocent victim in the Sandusky case. To them all he did was win. Baylor is the same way. So some girls "claimed" that some players went a little to far. Who cares? They won ten games per year.

In light of those things do you think Kansas fans consider Larry Browns teams as anything less that champions? Some for all the other schools who had wins stripped, those aren't losses to the fans and donors.

Arizona has it's sports identity wrapped up in UofA basketball. If they have to find a new coach and have fewer scholarships for a couple years who cares, they won and won big.

Until the NCAA grows a spine and is willing to make penalties harsh enough to really set programs back the fans and especially the fans who are significant donors aren't going to care and as a result the schools will keep on breaking the rules because it makes them money.

We need to see the real threat of the death penalty come back. Short of the death penalty we need to see harsh cuts in scholarships allowed. For basketball take away 4-5 for 3 years, for football take away 10 or 15 for 3-5 years.

Also do serious bans on the people involved. Coaches, athletic directors, school administrators. Put in bans of 5 years or 10 years to life prohibiting any member NCAA institution from hiring them in the ban period. If they are given say that 5 year to life ban it would mean that at the end of five years if they were to come back they would acknowledge that another significant offense would mean a lifetime ban and the institution would acknowledge that by hiring them any significant violation would trigger automatic penalties up to the death penalty. And then back it up.
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TLDR version?
 
torerobuff said:
This is why “failure to monitor” actually has become a big deal. Plausible deniability is not an excuse anymore. Buck stops with the head coach. Of course with the caveat that this is if the NCAA decides to do anything about it.
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well stated
 
'99 said:


Cheat and win, no punishment involved.
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animal house dean GIF
 
'99 said:


Cheat and win, no punishment involved.
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That doesn't explicitly say which USC that is. Based on past punishing a less prominent school when blue bloods go afoul, this is probably Univ of Southern Colorado-Pueblo (got confused with older name -- pre 2003-- for campus)
 
www.nbcnews.com

UCLA basketball player arrested after allegedly spitting at Arizona fan

Video footage of the alleged incident appears to show redshirt freshman Micawber “Mac” Etienne looking toward the stands and spitting in the direction of a fan.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

Placing this here because it shows that UCLA player(s) are as upset at UofA fans as I have been. "U-Of-A" (gawd, i hate that chant) fans have supported corrupt coaches. They are the worse at the Pac-12 tournament; they were cheering (jeering?) when McKinley Wright went down in injury. They're worse than the Kansas fans at the Events Center.
 
RiverBuff said:
www.nbcnews.com

UCLA basketball player arrested after allegedly spitting at Arizona fan

Video footage of the alleged incident appears to show redshirt freshman Micawber “Mac” Etienne looking toward the stands and spitting in the direction of a fan.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

Placing this here because it shows that UCLA player(s) are as upset at UofA fans as I have been. "U-Of-A" (gawd, i hate that chant) fans have supported corrupt coaches. They are the worse at the Pac-12 tournament; they were cheering (jeering?) when McKinley Wright went down in injury. They're worse than the Kansas fans at the Events Center.
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Wait, so you’re on the side of the guy who spit on fans at halftime AND postgame?
 
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