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What's your main criteria for our next Head Coach?
- Thread starter Buffnik
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Well that’s just crazy.
What composite rankings show Lake as #1 in the PAC12? I checked 247 sports for both 2018 and 2019 and he is ranked #15 in 2018 and #18 in 2019. Are there some more accurate rankings?
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeCoachRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeCoachRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeCoachRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeCoachRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
Pull a Nebraska and hire the current UCF coach.
I posted this and my posr was removed, but I was serious. Josh Heupel. He is showing success at UCF and might be a good candidate for CU. Here's a link to his bio: http://ucfknights.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=34100&ATCLID=211734077
I posted this and my posr was removed, but I was serious. Josh Heupel. He is showing success at UCF and might be a good candidate for CU. Here's a link to his bio: http://ucfknights.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=34100&ATCLID=211734077
Lake and the other candidates would be potentially good hires for many reasons stated, but if there is a big splash with Miles hire, and he hits it out of the park with the assistants, then CU takes a complete leap forward on more fronts.
Hire Miles now
Hire the next great thing 5-8 years from now when the job is in better standing recruit wise.
Hire Miles now
Hire the next great thing 5-8 years from now when the job is in better standing recruit wise.
CU could have constructed a pretty solid OL over the tenure of this staff, but they've missed on so many in-state OL prospects that it almost has to be intentional. I seem to recall MM having the coaches canvas pretty much every HS in the state at the start of his tenure, but he's pretty much completely ignored it since then.
That said, I think about the current staff makeup and I struggle to think of even one guy who came with MM to Colorado who had ANY ties here previously. Ambrose, Chiv, and Hagan have ties here from their playing days, but I don't think anyone came in as a known quantity and respected in the Colorado HS coaching community. I wonder if CU would get more traction in state if they hired someone to an assistant position on this next staff who fits that description.
You only go get Miles, IF you also like a couple of the assistants he is bringing as potential HC candidates.
I don't believe you bring them in as part of a succession plan, but you do make sure that you hire the level of coordinator that could be hired as the HC at a P5 program. With Miles, guys in his past that would fit would be guys like Monken at OC, Pelini at DC,
Someone like Barnett when he was hired as an assistant the first time, way back in the 80s?
Hiring an assistant with a similar resume would probably be a good idea.*
The real problem on this front though is that very few of the state's high school teachers and coaches went to CU. In the long run this really does hurt recruiting.
*For those that don't know, GB was HC at Air Academy HS, and then was the HC at Ft Lewis before Mac 1 brought him on as an assistant at CU. There's a reason the state HS coaches really liked GB, he was "one of them" - a lot of the older ones are still bitter about how CU treated him at the end of his tenure (put recruiting handcuffs on him, and then blame him for ****ty recruiting - in their opinion he was set up to fail by the Boulder elite). It didn't help that his replacement basically **** on them upon arrival.
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That is what I mean, you don't necessarily want to have to rely on a succession plan, but having the options in house would be wise.
You’re saying it’s a Hawkins-Peterson sitch?
BlackNGold
Club Member
I really don't have a a candidate - some are saying Lake fits that criteria.(though I am not sure about his recruiting). Tosh Lupoi meets the Recruiting criteria but I think he needs a few more years as a DC. I really want an honest search and you never know who may rise to the top. When doing the search they will need to determine how the person will be as a manager, can they make hard decisions, how will they hire, etc. Ultimately, can they coach..
Take someone like Tee Martin - great recruiter, OC, but I do not think he has been mentored by a successful coach for any period of time (not necessarily his fault). I would interview someone like that and see if it fits. Many candidates are not going to check every box.
I think recruiting has to be a must have criteria - CU is not located in a recruiting hotbed but is not a bad place to recruit to and with the new facilities it should be a lot easier.
We haven't had a recruiter of Lake's caliber in Boulder since EB left for UCLA.
BlackNGold
Club Member
Probably a good list. I am in favor of bringing in an assistant to be a head coach. I am not sure about recycling a former Head Coach - not in favor of Les Miles - just wonder if the fire is gone. Tedford has been a good recruiter but was a only so-so at Cal - seems to me his ceiling may be low.
Again, I don't understand this mentality of having a "plan" for the next head coach after Miles. LM should not be brought in as a babysitter for the program, and if that's truly the case, then RG is doing it wrong.
I just want a plan, period. In all things. Not just possible head coaching succession.
This program has looked rudderless since 2016.
Certain plans make sense. Like, what we'd do if RG wasn't our AD tomorrow for whatever reason. But certain plans are a waste of time and energy. Like, what we think we'll do in 5 years to replace RG if he decides to retire early.
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
The Hat is two years younger than Saban, lets not get carried away.
The idea of RG taking the Vandy job is terrifying, tbh. That would mean the President hire will have to be made in order to hire the new AD, and by the time all that's done, it's too late for anything to happen on the coaching front and it's onto year 7 of HCMM. That's just the tangible aspect of terror to be added to the idea that RG leaving would signal something awful pertaining to the leadership of the University and their support of the AD. Really need to hear Vandy hires someone else to put that rumor to bed.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
No, you don't. You interview Miles if you think he's got the fire to be a head coach still and if he's willing to bring in somebody who has no connections to LSU as an OC (Larry Fedora or Todd Monken if the Bucs ax Dirk Koetter).
Yep, I'm actually becoming more paranoid by the moment.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
RG will have to answer tough questions in any interview about Tumpkin. He doesn’t want to have to answer “why did you keep MM seven years?”
Not as terrifying as RG taking the Vandy job AFTER firing MM but BEFORE hiring a replacement. Which, because we're the Buffs, is probably going to happen. They'll install DiStephano as the Interim AD and he'll cheap out and hire the G5 flavor of the week.