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Where do you stand on HCMM?

Where do you stand on MacIntyre and his future?

  • Would be happy if he was back in 2018 with the current staff largely the same

    Votes: 2 1.0%

  • Would be happy for him to be back for 2018 but only with several changes on the staff

    Votes: 67 34.5%

  • Hope he gets hired away, we need fresh blood but buyout too big for us to fire him

    Votes: 108 55.7%

  • Bite the bullet and fire him, I just want him gone

    Votes: 17 8.8%
  • Total voters
    194
  • Poll closed .
Da Lama said:
From what I saw this year and what I'm hearing from some people inside, it sounds like the team is over Mac. You can't come back from that. He'll be here in 2018, but it's just a matter of time if that's the case.
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Sure you can. Happens all the time. It could be that this years Senior class was particularly toxic. Get some younger guys in there with a chance to play and the attitude can change pretty quick.
 
darth-horax said:
I'm torn.
Reading that he might have interviewed with Ole Miss during the bye week, in my opinion, leads me to think he really doens't want to be here.
If that's the case, I say do anything to get rid of him. You can't be successful in an area you don't want to be in.

However, if that's not the case, I think he deserves one more season. We know exactly what he can do with the right personnel, but I don't think we have
the right personnel right now. We need a new D coordinator, maybe O line/D line coaches as well.

This season is a bit of a rebuilding year, and I think we have some good players coming up. I think if Mac commits himself to CU he'll be good to have around. THat, however, is what is in doubt. I'm sick of seasons without bowls like the rest of us.
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The problem lies in that if the interview occurred and everyone withing the program is aware of it, he is a dead man walking to the players, recruits, and assistant coaches. The team certainly played as if they knew there was something up, and quite frankly, I can't see where he can succeed here anymore. I do appreciate that he was willing to take on the job, and appeared to be committed to turning this thing around while wanting something in the SEC. But the ultimate issue is one of where to go from here. Maybe TN will take a flyer on him, or as others have suggested, a Vanderbilt opening could come up.

In any case, he is done here. It was obvious that the players won't play for him, and honestly, how committed are the assistants? The rumors about Ole Miss appear to have a significant bit of truth, as every indication is that there were major motivational issues on Saturday. We can all guess as to the reason that MM wants out ASAP, but as a potential employer, I would question his commitment in the face of adversity. The team's performances this year can't have helped, and his inability to coach through this year would make him a very unattractive candidate to me if I were interviewing him. He has a ton of awards for a one year achievement, and it looks to the world as if he may have had a relatively small part in earning them. We can only hope that he is grabbed quickly someone desperate to have his "pedigree".
 
skibum said:
Younger guys, chance to play significant minutes on a MM team?
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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I’m not saying it’s likely, just possible.

Like him moving decisively with his assistant coaches. He CAN do it. No way of knowing whether he WILL do it.
 
sackman said:
Sure you can. Happens all the time. It could be that this years Senior class was particularly toxic. Get some younger guys in there with a chance to play and the attitude can change pretty quick.
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If we field a team that is midway between 2016 and 2017 caliber, we could pretty easily win 7 games. It's a soft schedule.
 
This thread is funny to me in a very sad way. In 5 years I am in the same place on MacIntyre in year one. Nothing has changed for me. And he has not changed.

My biggest complaint on him is he was/is he is a poor steward in regards to the resources he was given. He has continued to bring in coaches who have been grossly overpaid in comparison to their resumes. Jim Leavitt was the one exception.
His poor stewardship extended over to recruiting - he does not emphasize recruiting.
And I am not impressed with is game day coaching.

He gets the credit for last year and it goes on his record, but I believe that Jim Leavitt had a lot to do with that. Leavitt has a history of 'coaching up' his players.

I believe that 2015 and 2017 are more indicative of MacIntyre's coaching than 2016.
Staff changes will result in nothing - MacIntyre will continue to shop in the second hand bin for assistants.

I was fearful that the success of last year would result in what it did. Now CU is stuck for at least two more years, IMO.
 
sackman said:
I’m not saying it’s likely, just possible.

Like him moving decisively with his assistant coaches. He CAN do it. No way of knowing whether he WILL do it.
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As I've already posted this morning: my lottery ticket can win, whether it will or not, I have no way of knowing. Expecting people to change runs about the same odds.
 
Suppose HCMM leaves, will Leavitt be the next CU coach?
 
PAHIBuff said:
If I could talk to MM for one hour I could convince him to quit. You'd have to appeal to his somewhat patrician sense of Southern righteousness and personal honor. After that, finding his $$ walk-away number would be easy and surprisingly reasonable IMO. Also JMHO, MM grew up in a quasi-gilded genteel world and this present angst/visceral disappointment is grinding him down hard.

RG needs to strike while the irons hot.

For a free dime-store psychoanalysis of YOUR problems, call 1-800-BIGPAHI.....
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Dude, WTF? His dad got ****canned while MM was on the team. If you think college football in the south is "genteel," I'm not sure there's hope for you.
 
Any word coming out yet from that 10AM meeting today that MM referenced in his post-game presser?
 
sackman said:
You don’t fire somebody just because they interviewed somewhere else.
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Oh really?

Note: I don't actually support that, but it has happened.

Highlander said:
My money was on BuffSurveyor. Who in the world posts on another fan board when the two teams haven't played each other for 7 years?
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Uh... it's officially the offseason for us and them, which means it's HATE YEAR starting now. It's now relevant to talk **** to those mouth-breathing, polyester-wearing, cow-****ing, runza-gobbling, corn-cobbing mother ****ers. **** nebraska forever.
 
BuffsNYC said:
Dude, WTF? His dad got ****canned while MM was on the team. If you think college football in the south is "genteel," I'm not sure there's hope for you.
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MM is not a grinder in the face of adversity. From his background my opinion is that his version of the High Road will be to move on rather than to tough through it. And I'm not saying that one is always better than the other. And also not saying the situation is genteel, just that his reaction is inclined to be.
 
I want to change my answer to "Who cares." It's now basketball season and the Buffs have a young squad who play hard and have fun while they're at it. It's a joy to watch. I highly suggest we all jump over to the Basketball Forum and enjoy some positive vibes for awhile.
 
sackman said:
You don’t fire somebody just because they interviewed somewhere else.
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You do when they're doing it before their season ends. Its unethical. That's why people like Jimmy Sexton exist in this sport, Sackman. We may lose recruits because of MacIntyre's sloppy pursuit of another job, and if we do, he needs to be shown the door.
 
He’s not leaving, I don’t think CU wants him gone. But we need some new coaches and be better do this **** now before all the good ones are hired.
 
more speculation:

Trying to make sense of a lot of what I've seen with MM this year and I think that $100,000 fine and admission of guilt really, really hurt him. For most of us, I think, payment of a $100,000 penalty, by a man who just pocketed $12 million, wasn't a big deal. I don't recall MM's statements at the time, but even if he stayed quiet (which he may have been advised to do), when you pay a 6-figure penalty, you are making a public admission. I don't recall the terminology, but "Calvinistic" comes to mind; I think MM is deeply religious and his payment of the penalty is akin to admitting a sin.

I don't think MM did much at all wrong. I don't believe MM thinks he did much wrong. CU decided what would look best and MM went along.

I think MM feels he's been betrayed and shamed and wants to move along. I don't particularly like him, but I don't really blame him either.
 
cu2x said:
more speculation:

Trying to make sense of a lot of what I've seen with MM this year and I think that $100,000 fine and admission of guilt really, really hurt him. For most of us, I think, payment of a $100,000 penalty, by a man who just pocketed $12 million, wasn't a big deal. I don't recall MM's statements at the time, but even if he stayed quiet (which he may have been advised to do), when you pay a 6-figure penalty, you are making a public admission. I don't recall the terminology, but "Calvinistic" comes to mind; I think MM is deeply religious and his payment of the penalty is akin to admitting a sin.

I don't think MM did much at all wrong. I don't believe MM thinks he did much wrong. CU decided what would look best and MM went along.

I think MM feels he's been betrayed and shamed and wants to move along. I don't particularly like him, but I don't really blame him either.
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I keep hearing this but it should not be relevant. If he has such a moral high ground, how can he justify not doing his job while pocketing his pay check - you cannot say he is justified in slacking off just because his feelings were hurt. He has a job to do and should do it.
 
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I don't think CU wants him gone, nor can they justify it to the regents. He's back, but RG better be telling MM to make changes to the staff, not asking.
 
I would like to see MM gone.
The lack of intestinal fortitude shown by most the team is unforgivable and begins with the leadership.
Everything rises and falls on leadership
The pride and tradition of the Colorado Buffaloes will not be entrusted to the timid or the weak.
 
I don't blame him for being pissed off over the Tumpkin thing but he should make a statement and WALK without a job to go to. I would respect that massively.
 
Something is bothering me.
In a thread the other day it showed all the recruits from Embree...and they were the best players we've seen in a LONG time.

Is there a site that shows which recruits are tied to which coaches?
Did Mac ride the hard work of Embree after all is said and done?
 
darth-horax said:
Something is bothering me.
In a thread the other day it showed all the recruits from Embree...and they were the best players we've seen in a LONG time.

Is there a site that shows which recruits are tied to which coaches?
Did Mac ride the hard work of Embree after all is said and done?
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Mac brought in Chido, TT, Carrell, Witherspoon, Falo, Fisher, Laguda, Oliver, Gillam, Drew Lewis and Moeller on defense. Not as sure about the offense other than Lynott and Fields, but he still had to honor the commitments of Lindsay (torn ACL at the time) Sefo, Bobo, and Ross.
 
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