Gotta admire Big Jim’s steadfast defense of Karl Dorrell even when CU’s only good players leave the program.
It's not so much defense as acceptance. It's much easier once you can get past the anger...probably about 2018 for me.
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Which non-Seniors are we losing?
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It's not so much defense as acceptance. It's much easier once you can get past the anger...probably about 2018 for me.
Two things:
1. I’m past the anger phase thanks to your advice. I think our ineptitude is funny more than anything and hope they move on sooner than later from this experiment.
2. I disagree that you’re expressing acceptance. Your tone suggests that you embrace what Dorrell is doing.
Two responses:
1. Good for you, a lot of posters are not up to speed.
2. I embrace the coaching hires this off season. I don't embrace the talent acquisition although I do see it as being essentially the same as it has been for many years outside of the 2020 class so that is a big part of the "acceptance".
Bonus:
3. Of the 22, 23, 24 players leaving since September I believe there are only four that were acquired by KD. Other than Hagan this is KD's staff. Most of the roster and many of the starters will be KD's roster. Like it or not (acceptance is the saving grace) the next two seasons are all on KD. After Tucker, I see KD as being the best HC at CU since Barnett/Bynny/Albino/Tharp neutered the football team circa 2002/2003. Unfortunately the drop from Tucker to KD is too large to hope that CU has any interest in winning.
This doesn't count graduates, right?
I think there were 9, so 32 spots to fill between HS recruits and transfers.
First, Barnett and company sponsored the bigbang that lead to gutting the program for coming up on 20 years. Now you appear to be the harbinger of death as the bigbang2 is probably going to be on a team bonding trip and will be the reason CU shuts down football altogether.
To answer the question posed in the thread title. It would appear all of them.
At least get his ****ing name right, superfan.
Everything is fine. Nothing to see here. Move along
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No it doesn't, but there weren't that many given COVID rules. Landman, Kutsch and Lynch are the only ones I can think of, there may be others.
Broussard went from P12 POY with 5.7 YPC to a JAG with 4.7 YPC.
As much as I hate to say it, I don't blame him.
So far:
Blayne Toll TE/DE
Lloyd Murray DL
Ashaad Clayton RB
LaVontae Shenault WR
Zephaniah Maea ILB
Keith Miller WR
Chris Carpenter WR
Jayden Simon DL
Trustin Oliver S
Alec Pell TE/LB
Max Wray OT
Colby Purcell C
Ray Robinson S
Jon Van Diest LB
Curtis Appleton S
Christian Gonzales CB
Mark Perry S
Mekhi Blackmon CB
Brendan Rice WR
Carson Wells LB
Joe Davis RB
Kanan Ray OL
Jarek Broussard RB
Terrance Lang DL (waiting formal announcement, but Bread reports, and he is pretty reliable)
24 by my count.
Best young defender (Gonzo) best young offensive player (Rice) , 3/4 of the starting defensive backfield, one of your best pass rushers (Wells) and DL (Lang), 2 of your OL (Purcell and Ray), two highly rated offensive players (Clayton and Shenault), the starting RB and two depth pieces behind him. This is a disaster.
Another day, another starter hitting the road. Next season will be ugly.
Blayne Toll TE/DE
Lloyd Murray DL
Ashaad Clayton RB
LaVontae Shenault WR
Zephaniah Maea ILB
Keith Miller WR
Chris Carpenter WR
Jayden Simon DL
Trustin Oliver S
Alec Pell TE/LB
Max Wray OT
Colby Purcell C
Ray Robinson S
Jon Van Diest LB
Curtis Appleton S
Christian Gonzales CB
Mark Perry S
Mekhi Blackmon CB
Brendan Rice WR
Carson Wells LB
Joe Davis RB
Kanan Ray OL
Jarek Broussard RB
Terrance Lang DL (waiting formal announcement, but Bread reports, and he is pretty reliable)
24 by my count.
Best young defender (Gonzo) best young offensive player (Rice) , 3/4 of the starting defensive backfield, one of your best pass rushers (Wells) and DL (Lang), 2 of your OL (Purcell and Ray), two highly rated offensive players (Clayton and Shenault), the starting RB and two depth pieces behind him. This is a disaster.
Another day, another starter hitting the road. Next season will be ugly.
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These are large chucks of productivity.
So far:
Blayne Toll TE/DE
Lloyd Murray DL
Ashaad Clayton RB
LaVontae Shenault WR
Zephaniah Maea ILB
Keith Miller WR
Chris Carpenter WR
Jayden Simon DL
Trustin Oliver S
Alec Pell TE/LB
Max Wray OT
Colby Purcell C
Ray Robinson S
Jon Van Diest LB
Curtis Appleton S
Christian Gonzales CB
Mark Perry S
Mekhi Blackmon CB
Brendan Rice WR
Carson Wells LB
Joe Davis RB
Kanan Ray OL
Jarek Broussard RB
Josh Watts P
Chris Miller DB
Dmitri Stanley WR
Chance Lytle OL
27 by my count.
Lang stays. Great news. If Sami sticks, the DL should be serviceable. RJ Sneed II is a nice pickup to fill some of the void at WR. Hurtado and Main are added to the LB corps. Kopp adds to a suddenly full QB room.
I know Christmas has come and gone, but Santa, can we have 4 OL? EDIT: make that five. On the same day Lang decides to stay, Chance Lytle leaves.
OL is the thinnest, least experienced and least talented position group on the roster and guys continue to leave. The portal is a rocky place where CU's seed can find no purchase. I honestly have no idea how CU can do this without immediate OL help from the portal. It has become desperation time.
Blayne Toll TE/DE
Lloyd Murray DL
Ashaad Clayton RB
LaVontae Shenault WR
Zephaniah Maea ILB
Keith Miller WR
Chris Carpenter WR
Jayden Simon DL
Trustin Oliver S
Alec Pell TE/LB
Max Wray OT
Colby Purcell C
Ray Robinson S
Jon Van Diest LB
Curtis Appleton S
Christian Gonzales CB
Mark Perry S
Mekhi Blackmon CB
Brendan Rice WR
Carson Wells LB
Joe Davis RB
Kanan Ray OL
Jarek Broussard RB
Josh Watts P
Chris Miller DB
Dmitri Stanley WR
Chance Lytle OL
27 by my count.
Lang stays. Great news. If Sami sticks, the DL should be serviceable. RJ Sneed II is a nice pickup to fill some of the void at WR. Hurtado and Main are added to the LB corps. Kopp adds to a suddenly full QB room.
I know Christmas has come and gone, but Santa, can we have 4 OL? EDIT: make that five. On the same day Lang decides to stay, Chance Lytle leaves.
OL is the thinnest, least experienced and least talented position group on the roster and guys continue to leave. The portal is a rocky place where CU's seed can find no purchase. I honestly have no idea how CU can do this without immediate OL help from the portal. It has become desperation time.
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Thanks for the update. I think Main will be a guy with his hand in the dirt as an end in a 3 man front or strong side on the 4 man front.