10 wins, every time.
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Would you rather...2017 Football Record
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Beating a mountain west school that I don't give two ****s about vs any other good outcome is any easy decision.
USC is different. I actually care about beating those ****s. I would almost take a win against them over being bowl eligible. Almost.
I would still prefer 10 wins though. 10 win seasons are rare, and special.
Also, the CSU series can't end soon enough.
USC is different. I actually care about beating those ****s. I would almost take a win against them over being bowl eligible. Almost.
I would still prefer 10 wins though. 10 win seasons are rare, and special.
Also, the CSU series can't end soon enough.
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DiggerBuffs
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2. Lose to CSU in a 10 Win season and lose a bowl. It's like this year all over. 10-4 isn't much different than 9-4. And 9-4 you don't have to hear CSU fans claim to be a better team due to them likely being 10-2 or 11-1 in that scenario.
White_Rabbit
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3 ez
ahoelsken
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CSU is not a rivalry. Neg rep to this guy and any other poster on this board who refers to them as such. If one team beats another two out of every three time they play, its not a rivalry. There's a reason why this game is on P12N this year, and it's because the TV people know we're going to beat them by 30 again.
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4 more games, including this year.
I really want to end this thing with over a 75% win percentage and 6 straight victories.
I think I'd take the 9-4 season over the 10-3 in order to get that, the USC monkey off the back, and a bowl win finish.
What tipped it for me was the bowl result of options 2 and 3. Leave those as an unknown and I'd take 10-2 over 8-4 every time, but not with it shaking out as in the OP. Plus, I think that an opening win would make a big impact on the home attendance the rest of the way to keep momentum going.
4 more games, including this year.
I really want to end this thing with over a 75% win percentage and 6 straight victories.
I think I'd take the 9-4 season over the 10-3 in order to get that, the USC monkey off the back, and a bowl win finish.
What tipped it for me was the bowl result of options 2 and 3. Leave those as an unknown and I'd take 10-2 over 8-4 every time, but not with it shaking out as in the OP. Plus, I think that an opening win would make a big impact on the home attendance the rest of the way to keep momentum going.
DiggerBuffs
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Neg rep this guy for questioning a rivalry. If this is true, CU has 0 rivalries and has not had a rivalry since Pre-Big 7 days when their rivals were CSU and Utah. Keep in mind, Nebraska was referenced a rivalry despite a similar win percentage in that series.
CSU is a rival. Deal with it.
The reasons this is on P12N:
-CU got trounced their last two.
-CSU was a mediocre G5 team last year.
-P12 has an awful TV deal and P12 is a low priority. They also moved the game to Friday but they put it on as same time as Washington and Rutgers which is more attractive nationally with much bigger market. They should have made this the Sunday game or MNF since NFL won't be started with regular season and pre-season is over that weekend.
Most CU fans don't constantly go back and forth with CSU trolls on twitter so most aren't nearly as worried about the "smack talk" from their 10 fans.
Bowl games don't matter so back to back 10 win seasons is was better than winning something like the foster farms bowl against a garbage Big-10 team.
Bowl games don't matter so back to back 10 win seasons is was better than winning something like the foster farms bowl against a garbage Big-10 team.
50% of Digger's Twitter takes have something to do with RMS or engaging a CSU fan in some way. He REALLY loves him some CU/CSU rivalry.
SuperiorBuff
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I guess Buff fans with low level expectations do see it as a rivalry.
I think there's a general age group of CU fans that see it as a true rivalry, and it's those that were students during the "heyday" of the RMS, when both programs were pretty good, not to mention the BVP spike and "Worst 9th ranked team I've ever seen" comment, lightning game, Marcus Houston transfer, etc. From 1999 until the Hawkins era began the series was 4-3 in favor of CU, with close wins and blowouts on both sides. I do think that period of time could be called a rivalry, but since then and before that time, absolutely not.
BuffLuke80
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CSU is our rival? I've always looked at them as little brother. **** all that, USC is who I want.
When you've played the team nearly 100 times, it's a rivalry. I'm fine with that. My issue is that with the way thing shook out with realignment, CSU ended up being the primary rivalry for a window of time. That's changing and absolutely needs to change.
USC has UCLA and Notre Dame. CU will never be viewed as a rival with them. Utah is our only real hope, but 2016 was the first time the game has meant something, and there hasn't really been any extra curriculars that help spark that hatred. And, if we're being honest, true rivalries are somewhat dead or dying. There's very little "beef" between programs and individual players anymore, they all seem to like and support each other, and with the exception of the big ones, you never hear the players or coaches talk **** about other programs or players like they used to.
I'm starting to feel it more as a rivalry with Utah. It would help if both schools would promote it more.
Colorado leads all-time "Rumble in the Rockies" series 32-28-2. That's a lot of history and it's very close, which both add a lot to this. And as long as the scheduling is maintained with us playing on Thanksgiving rivalry weekend in the Pac-12, it sets up as a big game on the schedule regardless of records.
Since joining the Pac-12, Utah leads 4-2. But the 2 CU wins were huge: the first kept Utah out of the championship game and the second put CU into the championship game.
The thing this is missing is hate. I don't know many CU fans who hate Utah or vice versa. That's something it's hard to envision changing.
But I do think it can become a lot more than it is in the minds of players and fans.
As we've discussed before, I think this needs one of those silly trophies to play for and one of those silly bets between our state governors. Add a bit of that college pageantry that makes things more fun and gets some extra pub.
Colorado leads all-time "Rumble in the Rockies" series 32-28-2. That's a lot of history and it's very close, which both add a lot to this. And as long as the scheduling is maintained with us playing on Thanksgiving rivalry weekend in the Pac-12, it sets up as a big game on the schedule regardless of records.
Since joining the Pac-12, Utah leads 4-2. But the 2 CU wins were huge: the first kept Utah out of the championship game and the second put CU into the championship game.
The thing this is missing is hate. I don't know many CU fans who hate Utah or vice versa. That's something it's hard to envision changing.
But I do think it can become a lot more than it is in the minds of players and fans.
As we've discussed before, I think this needs one of those silly trophies to play for and one of those silly bets between our state governors. Add a bit of that college pageantry that makes things more fun and gets some extra pub.
It's a rivalry whether we choose to admit it or not.
However, it's not a rivalry in the classic sense. There's nothing on the line in this game. We, as CU fans, just don't want to lose to CSU. Most true rivalries have something on the line when the teams play. Most fans have a true hatred of their rivals and want to win more than simply wanting to not lose. Basically, the CU/CSU rivalry is about as weak a rivalry as can be found.
However, it's not a rivalry in the classic sense. There's nothing on the line in this game. We, as CU fans, just don't want to lose to CSU. Most true rivalries have something on the line when the teams play. Most fans have a true hatred of their rivals and want to win more than simply wanting to not lose. Basically, the CU/CSU rivalry is about as weak a rivalry as can be found.
BuffLuke80
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I agree it's gonna be Utah probably, the usc talk is more out of hate on my end lol. Make them our new Nebraska.
DiggerBuffs
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You sure do love me. I appreciate it.
I look forward to the game ending, so you are incorrect. Their fans lack a sense of football IQ, but so do many of CUs by the things I have read/seen.
CU has these options for rivalries:
Utah-Natural fit. Needs someone besides BYU. Not an annual game any more like CU-CSU should not.
UCLA-They are the little brother to USC. USC is their only true rival.
ASU-ASU is in a big market. Has always produced solid teams and great NFL talent. Tempe > Tucson
USC has big rivalries in UCLA and Notre Dame. But, Nebraska has OU (even though it's not annual) and Iowa. CU is their 3rd. You have to beat a team to make it a rivalry. Let's kick USCs ass to make that happen.
Oh, I got to go. I need to go talk about CSU and the RMS to meet Schek's quota.
BuffLuke80
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Ok it's a rivalry but a different one. It sure as hell isn't usc notre dame or something.
UCLA also has Cal as a secondary rival.
They play for the "couldn't get into Stanford" cup every year. It's quite heated.
I think for Utah to really take off, one or both of us need to become a top tier program, meaning perennially ranked in the top 10-15 near season's end when the game is played. Playing for a division championship a few times is nice, but ruining a CFP-type bid is the kind of thing that will make it take off, IMO. Also, having a game like last year against UCLA, where there were a lot of personal fouls, unsportsmanlikes, taunting, ejections, and then the whole lockerroom thing would also help move it along.
Simple question, are you high? Colorado State is 100% a rival of Colorado and might be our biggest at the moment. Not sure how you can argue against that.
SuperiorBuff
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Yawn